"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Appearing needy/desperate list -

muttley

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Some times i fell like i appear Desperate/Needy infront of women.

i made a lil list of the things that i believe lead to this from passed experience:

*Dont make "getting women" your priority, why should it be?:

-Right now my priorities are
-Enjoy my life to breathe newer/fresher air every day!
-Getting the best possible result in my Masters.
- Make some cash to pay off my debts from university.
- Staying focused.


*Stay focused on your goals/hobbies/things you like:
- I love to watch/play football with my buddies, i wouldnt miss that for anything.
- i like learning new things, especially with computers cos i LOVE THEM
- dont toss these aside for women , its really not worth killing your passions for women, you'll end up unhappy.

*Dont see every woman you meet as a potential "target"
- When you do this you constantly feel UNEASY around women. Its like your trying to make an impression on every woman you meet and it makes you look like a chump trying to "impress" them

*DONT FALL INTO THE **** TRAP OF - "Does she like me? did she look at me? what did she mean by that?"

-thinking about if she likes you or whatever will make you more nervous around her/them. Just relax and dont care. It will lead to more AFC'ness and possibly oneitis *gasp* if u dont.


*Have standards , dont settle for her just cos she has a "*****" and "shows interest".

- I have my standards, you should have standards too. Chicks have to pass my criteria.
- Women must proove them selves to me, i wont jump through hoops no more and i walk away.



*Have some ****ing self respect, keep ya head up
-Dont loose your manhood never. ever.


...and if there is a chick that you find attractive and wanna get to Dj her, then get into DJ mode n spit your DJ tactics at her.


Thats my short little list. Its what i can think of judging from passed experiences. Does anyone wanna comment / add/criticize?
it will be good for us to share and hope fully learn more :D


stay strong
muttley
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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sux2bu

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You should never "settle" for any girl that just shows interest or looks at you for more than 3 seconds. They might make a good one-night-stand, but that's up to you.
 

Mortukai

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..and if there is a chick that you find attractive and wanna get to Dj her, then get into DJ mode n spit your DJ tactics at her.
I'd actually say to never get out of DJ mode. In fact, being a DJ should be a perpetual state of mind. You should never have to "start spitting tactics", you should always be the type of person that would make those tactics redundant. Hell, if you end up with a hundred girls you're not interested in all chasing you, that's mega social proof, and some of them are bound to have hot friends.
 

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I liked that.

Most of those points ring true with me. Thanks for the booster dude! I think i needed it.

Im going to write myself a list now.
 

skeeloo

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, im beginning to doubt all this act like the prize stuff. i might as well not give a **** like before and approach any girl like i used to and embarass my self i didnt used to give a **** b4. i think all this have standards and all that will just make u seem snobish today this girl told me i act like im too good for women, when i was just my usuall confident self and many girls all off a sudden avioded me today and i didnt do nothing to them lol, this same girl slammed a door at my face, why, because she taught i was a jerk, and another girl made it a point to kiss her boyfriend in my presence. but i wont giveup no way.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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baddfishh40

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The "being the prize" thing is hard to balance. I do believe its import but it isn't a matter of putting yourself so far out of reach of women that you don't eve seem like fun. Basically, just don't do anything for a girl just because she's pretty or because you are interested in her. Make it a point that you have a life outside of girls like muttley said but don't act too good for them. The best way to make yourself hard to get is one day show a good deal of attention to one girl in the presence of another girl, then the next time go to another, and another which will cause the girls to wonder whether they will get attention like that again. It's kind of a tricky balance but once you find out how to do it it works well. I started becoming kind of snobbish too until I learned how to use it.
 
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