"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Anyone tried zoom/virtual dating?

Aspire

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I apologize if this is in the wrong forum. Has anyone tried zoom dating during these times of pandemic? If so I would like to know about your experience.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Seems like a giant waste of time. To actually make a romantic relationship happen, there needs to be in person time and in person physicality. I wouldn't bother with the swipe app and video date environment now. Must meet in person.
 

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It sounds to me like a waste of time. If she doesn't want meet up in person and she's using the current situation as her excuse, there's no point in wasting your time and attention on her.
Well in my case I haven’t asked her out yet and there are limited places we can go out to.
 

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If it adds value and joy to your life then why not? Only you can determine that.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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can you imagine the guy who sends her vagina tingling using video calls?

she has 1000 Beta males offering this, whilst she rinses them all of non- sexual attention and gives them Nothing
 

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No need to apologize.
In my book, I can respect a genuine question and am of the belief that it deserves a genuine response.

"Zoom dating" seems to be the rage this year. I'm personally against it and here's my personal experience.
About ten years ago (via on line personals) I was messaged by a gal that lived in another state. I checked her profile and to my surprise, she was just as attractive as articulate. After a few back and forths, she suggested talking via web cam. This was s first for me (and my last). Communicating via web cam seemed to further suggest that she and I really were a good match. Seeing as though no one local seemed to compare, we decided to meet in person. Once I saw her face to face, I instantly felt no chemistry. She was still just as attractive, but it didn't seem the same.

The point to my above story is that any form of artificial interaction will not guarantee a positive outcome in person. I can't state what is best for you, but perhaps by sharing my story, this will provide some food for thought.
 

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I would also like it noted that I have been aquatinted with her for a year and a half.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Zoom/Virtual dating is a female agenda and you agreeing to it puts you into their narrative. Not yours, as a man.
 

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I mean it's fine to keep things warm if she is REALLY worried about corona or is high risk or lives with high risk parents/people. But it's not really a "Date", it's a glorified phone call. You need to be asking her out though. Don't assume she'll say no. Take her to a park near your house and then have her come over after. I've done this multiple times during corona and it works well.

If it's OLD, i actually don't mind a phone or video call before we meet up. Helps me decide if there's enough chemistry to be worth going out with her, or whether she is going to annoy me in person or whatever. If you can vibe on the phone or video, you can def get along in person and it helps to cement the interaction and prevent flakes.

But since you've known her, you need to get her out to meet you asap.
 
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