WanderingMan
Senior Don Juan
anyone know why he got banned? when/if he's coming back?
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Exactly. As long as you don't reply to them, they won't insult you, unless a post was so outlandish that feminists would cringe. That's another story.Just quit replying to them if you don't like what they have to say. Easy as that.
You should be able to disagree with someone without being insulted, however. As you stated, their positions were fairly radical. The "red pill" in the Matrix is supposed to represent reality. It isn't supposed to represent taking the most extreme position.Exactly. As long as you don't reply to them, they won't insult you
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Two skills in life (not just in internet pretend-land) that are EXTREMELY useful:I try to ignore their insecurities(name calling) and lack of empathy and focus on the good they offer. Just quit replying to them if you don't like what they have to say. Easy as that.
False, he stalked my topics and posts like cat and mouse. I repeatedly offered to settle whatever issue he had with me through private chat and he would never accepted. He clearly had a predatory nature so this is the furthest thing from the truth.Exactly. As long as you don't reply to them, they won't insult you, unless a post was so outlandish that feminists would cringe. That's another story.
Yes I see your point. They did say that. Their reasoning was because being a simpering wuss due to having oneitis over some chick means that you are a beta faggot. Why is a man like this instead of being a man and thinking for himself? Its because he was being emotional, therefore being emotional means being a beta faggot, especially since that is the domain of women. Therefore they assumed logic and rationale being the land of men. There weren't any LOGICAL reasons for being in an LTR in their mind. In terms of straight up logic and rationale, that is true. But emotions are oftentimes involved in relationships with women so that cause-effect thinking is flawed. Perhaps that is the one factor they forgot to account for somewhere in their 'equation'.You should be able to disagree with someone without being insulted, however. As you stated, their positions were fairly radical. The "red pill" in the Matrix is supposed to represent reality. It isn't supposed to represent taking the most extreme position.
If they wanted to advocate the playboy lifestyle, that is fine. But that's not the same as saying there is never any good reason to be in a relationship. Men should be able to decide for themselves what those reasons are. They said the only reasons to be in a relationship were if you lazy, fearful, or a faggot. I disagreed with that assessment and from time to time felt I had to speak up and say so.
Huh. Well he never did that with me. He couldn't really argue with me because I never gave him much of an opening. But if I did disagree with him or deesade or anyone else on here and they refused to understand what I was saying or if they didn't read my responses to other peoplw who asked the same questions, then I would just ignore their posts. I never had much of an issue.False, he stalked my topics and posts like cat and mouse. I repeatedly offered to settle whatever issue he had with me through private chat and he would never accepted. He clearly had a predatory nature so this is the furthest thing from the truth.
Deesade's ban at this time will be temporary.I noticed this too. Perhaps it was because he responded to a moderator's message insultingly, I know that can get you banned. I enjoyed his posts as well. A bit too logical at times, but he stated bleakly how women are so I gained a lot from him. I wonder if he is ever gonna come back here though. He did seem rather irritated at PK's ban. I don't think he realized though that the atmosphere here at SS isn't like Roosh V forums. We just aren't radical. We're practical. Oh well, his legacy lives on through the wisdom in his posts. Hopefully others can find them as useful as i have.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
I completely disagree that the only reasons to be in a LTR are emotional. I think the reasons for dating multiple women are just as emotional as the reasons for being in a LTR - not "feeling" needy, "feeling" that you have abundance, not "feeling" abandoned when you get stood up, liking the ego boost of thinking you have a harem, the "excitement" of variety.There weren't any LOGICAL reasons for being in an LTR in their mind. In terms of straight up logic and rationale, that is true.
I meant solely logical and rational. There are reasons baring both sides, but none for LTRs that have ONLY logic and rationale to them.I completely disagree that the only reasons to be in a LTR are emotional. I think the reasons for dating multiple women are just as emotional as the reasons for being in a LTR - not "feeling" needy, "feeling" that you have abundance, not "feeling" abandoned when you get stood up, liking the ego boost of thinking you have a harem, the "excitement" of variety.
At my age, oneitis isn't something that has a big hold on me. I and others noted that we liked having the LTR because it saved us time to focus on things that might be more important - hobbies, sports, earning money, working out, whatever. To us, it is logical and practical.
Eh, still don't think I agree. I guess you are saying that a guy can just screw different women with no emotions involved, but in that case you might as well be jerking off. Even if you're just seeking pleasure, pleasure is an emotion. But no one will call you a faggot for seeking pleasure lol.I meant solely logical and rational. There are reasons baring both sides, but none for LTRs that have ONLY logic and rationale to them.
Noone thats here and able to right now will, anyway.But no one will call you a faggot for seeking pleasure lol.
It's a sensation, not an emotion. I wouldn't call pain an emotion. I mean burning yourself on the stove hurts, but doesn't affect my feelings directly.Eh, still don't think I agree. I guess you are saying that a guy can just screw different women with no emotions involved, but in that case you might as well be jerking off. Even if you're just seeking pleasure, pleasure is an emotion. But no one will call you a faggot for seeking pleasure lol.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.