"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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anyone here in medical sales

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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No, but I have a broad experience in sales. I've sold lumber & building products, gravestones, electrical components, newspaper advertising, and insurance & financial services. All outside sales, 100% commission, like your typical medical gig.

FYI, I am now selling farm equipment with a base salary and hefty commission schedule. I can proudly say I have worked my way up to this job, that's the way of sales. You start out in horrible jobs with no base, selling crap no one wants to buy and you get treated like dogsh!t all day long. I can't believe I never thought to sell farm equipment, I come from a very well known farm family in my state who also broker equipment on a decent scale, so you could definitely say I am in my natural market.

I personally know many big-time farmers who get a new combine nearly every year, and those bad boys start at $250,000. I have obtained commitments from all of them to do business with me :)

But this is about you. Are you in medical sales already, or are you contemplating a position there? I'll say what I know: medical sales seem to have a high turnover, but if you can get in and establish yourself as a RESOURCE for the professionals you intend to do business with, you can do very well for yourself. But your desire should be to serve THEIR best interest, not your own. They get hit up by nervous recent college grads all day long and think "UGH!!!"

So be willing to pay your dues, the sales gods will accept nothing less than your unbridled suffering and self-doubt, and the rebirth that comes from these experiences. In sales above all other jobs, does the hardest steel come from the hottest fire. Don't be afraid to fail, fail forward as fast as you can. And remember, when you arrive as a salesman, money will flow to you like water down a mountainside, and there is no faster route to the executive suite than through the perilous sales department.
 

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I'm in the medical device industry.

I develop medical devices. I work closely with the salesman to define the devices.

What's the point of this thread? Do you have any specific questions?
 

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thanks for the input I live in miami and was at a club where these guys with nice cars were telling me how they got into this biz any books I should read again thanks.
 

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elite7 said:
thanks for the input I live in miami and was at a club where these guys with nice cars were telling me how they got into this biz any books I should read again thanks.
It depends in what you want to do.

In my experience, most medical salesmen have extensive knowledge in the product.

For instance, we have a lot of biologist and PHd types selling our products. Their backgrounds are in implantable devices and biopotential measuring.

Other places sell a product that can easily be learned. Unless you have previous experience in some medical area (like you were an EEG tech or something) you'll need to find a product that can easily be learned.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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elite7 said:
thanks for the input I live in miami and was at a club where these guys with nice cars were telling me how they got into this biz any books I should read again thanks.
In almost any sales field you have an opportunity to legitimately earn six figures.

Of course, unless it's telemarketing or most jobs you find on Craigslist or in the newspaper.

Never get into a particular sales field because you see others making mad money. I'm not one of those guys who can sell anything, I actually have to be passionate to do a good job.

I would download all the sales/motivational cd's and video's I could get my hands on. Learning to sell is just like becoming a DJ. Check out salespractice.com, effing fantastic sales forum.
 

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thanks for the info guys any other site you can think of?
 
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