Anyone here finds the idea of marriage totally depressing?

[JdelaSilviera]

I´m 25, and some of my friends are already getting married... I cannot see myself getting married, first because ,and I´m terribly sorry if sound a bad person, but I NEED to be physically attracted to the woman, otherwise I simply can´t love her.. And honestly I find that women tend to be most attractive at 19-21, I can´t feel any attraction to 25+ woman (saggy skin, out of shape, the ones who are not fat have either too much muscle or they are just anorexic) they simply let themselves go (specially if they are married)...

Second it seems a terrible prison to me, you leave your job (which is another prison) to go home and hear kids crying, a fat woman always complaining, then you just simply stop meeting new people. Not to mention that in your free time half of the programs at least, won´t be spent doing things you want, boring wife´s friends, long Sunday programs with their family you name it.
It doesn´t surprise me that half of the adults in this planet are always depressed they aren´t free! And I don´t want to become one of the zombies..

I think I want to travel, have new girlfriends, meet new people constantly etc.. And marriage simply doesn´t allow it.

Anyway if someone has a good perspective regards to marriage I would also like to hear you... every opinion is welcome.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Any agreement with obligation with a woman is a bad deal either case, let alone if you are not free to leave whenever you want at your own conditions.

Plus its not necessary anymore to marry, women grant sex and companionship anyway, there are simply no reason to get married, in the last decades all the pros disapperared and a mountain of cons appeared.

I agree with you with being attracted to a girl as necessary condition to like her even emotionally, also girls 30+ seems to face a sudded expiration, they simply lose something that they have when younger, not necessarily physically.

I dont want to be single because I wanna travel,meet new people etc, first of all I wanna be free to choose by myself what is better for me, with no "supervisor" or " associate at unfair terms".

 

[PlayHer Man]

No man with any common sense or self-esteem would get married in 2013. Its a fools domain and you have nothing to gain that doesn't involve appearances. All the reasons for getting married in 2013 are shallow:

-Social Status
-Family Pressure
-Image
-Tradition

If you still have that high school mindset where you need to "fit in with all the cool people" then you probably have low self-esteem. Trading your freedom and control over your financial future for social status? Its a chump move.

Its better to stay single and have girlfriends. Even if you decide to have kids, don't marry the mother.

 

[alpha_ash]

You guys come off as incredibly bitter with a history of poor choices in women.

The first few posters please share with us some more things about yourself:

At what age did you lose your virginity?
Who was the girl that took it? (Describe her personality, and looks)
What were the conditions (drunk, high, sober, etc.)
Your parents, married, divorced, still together, single parents?
Were they around as you were growing up?
Your household led by mother or father?
Ever have oneitis? If so what age?
How many girlfriends since then?
Longest relationship and how long ago?
Also mention your current age.

Please don't think of this as a condescending inquiry. I want to know because I am trying to decipher a pattern, or rather apply a pattern that already exists.

 

[PlayHer Man]

You guys come off as incredibly bitter with a history of poor choices in women.

The first few posters please share with us some more things about yourself:

At what age did you lose your virginity?
Who was the girl that took it? (Describe her personality, and looks)
What were the conditions (drunk, high, sober, etc.)
Your parents, married, divorced, still together, single parents?
Were they around as you were growing up?
Your household led by mother or father?
Ever have oneitis? If so what age?
How many girlfriends since then?
Longest relationship and how long ago?
Also mention your current age.

Please don't think of this as a condescending inquiry. I want to know because I am trying to decipher a pattern, or rather apply a pattern that already exists.

Bitter? Haha.

Learn the facts for yourself:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=195329

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=201325

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=201579

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=200791

No one is "bitter" bro. Just realistic. Ignorance is bliss.

 

[JdelaSilviera]

Look, love is a key part of your life.... indirectly is what motivates you to do almost every stuff you do. Therefore I absolutely love women, I just think they have an age limit... and I find marriage scary... just it. No bitterness whatsoever on my part... I also reject ugs so I understand when HB10 do the same.

 

[Night-hawk]

We have tendencies to self rationalize that we are an exception to the rule(s). However, there wouldn't be these rules hadn't a shred of truth been there to begin with. For example, a guy of little experience finds his first girlfriend at a club. He ends up dating her, and soon enough 'falls in love' and starts to believe he is ( to his later disillusionment) that he is the exception to the rule that relationships don't come from clubs, as club girls are no good.
Another guy who has experience with the club and many women who used to think he was the exception looks at the other guy and sees what he does not, and can 'prophesize' the dismal end that awaits him with that girl. The first guy's self rationalizing of 'exceptioning' himself from the other provers of the rule was merely a consequence of inexperience and separating himself through denial, delusion, or gleeful, ego based rationalizing.
Another thing, like marriage many guys think they are the exception to the rule that, even though marriage is risky they believe their being the exception above the rest is a calculated surety rather than risk. One guy will take a calculated risk validating himself as an exception and so risk the road of marriage with glee. While another guy will look upon the rule and by observation and calculating risk upon truths to the rule that he will risk not getting married, not caring to prove that he is the exception. The rule that marriage will work compared to the more taboo rule that it won't is his belief that choosing the latter, and not getting married, will work best for him.

 

[Mike32ct]

I know there are a few top poster guys on here with happy marriages. I'm genuinely happy for them. I think it COULD be great with the right woman.

My concern is about the other 90% of men that are unhappy in their marriages. Even my own father told me "Marriage is like serving 20 to life with no parole. It's like G I t mo lol."

Then I hear about all these sexless marriages and its painful to hear that. I can deal with dry spells as a single dude because when another opportunity presents itself to score, I can take it. A married dude is trapped.

 

[JoeMarron]

I know there are a few top poster guys on here with happy marriages. I'm genuinely happy for them. I think it COULD be great with the right woman.

My concern is about the other 90% of men that are unhappy in their marriages. Even my own father told me "Marriage is like serving 20 to life with no parole. It's like G I t mo lol."

Then I hear about all these sexless marriages and its painful to hear that. I can deal with dry spells as a single dude because when another opportunity presents itself to score, I can take it. A married dude is trapped.

You have to take into account the fact that most of those men don't know what the hell they're doing concerning women or marriage. The dudes here have good marriages because they chose the right woman, knows how to maintain attraction, lead the relationship etc. Sure marriage is still a big risk for any man but if you know what youre doing youre less likely to get screwed over.

 

[Mike32ct]

You have to take into account the fact that most of those men don't know what the hell they're doing concerning women or marriage. The dudes here have good marriages because they chose the right woman, knows how to maintain attraction, lead the relationship etc. Sure marriage is still a big risk for any man but if you know what youre doing youre less likely to get screwed over.

True.

 

[nismo-4]

99% of the time, I say f**k marriage!

I'd only marry a woman I've known for years, through the good and bad times. But this is a needle in a haystack.

The truth is, men value love, but women love value. Hence why hypergamy is highly rampant these days. Besides, why would I sign over half my sh*t to a ticking time bomb anyway? F**k that!

Marriage is negotiated desire at it's highest. A man has nothing to gain and everything to lose. A woman has everything to gain and nothing to lose. Divorce courts favor the woman heavily.

 

[SamTheHobit]

I honestly don't see the point of marriage..
Is it not just a paper?

What's wrong with having a long term relationship for 10 years?

Under the right circumstances I'd consider marriage. But it's unlikely. Marriage to the wrong women can be soul devouring.

I honestly don't see a place for marriage for my generation, sure a few decades ago it was the norm.

I'm not sure I'm bitter about missing out on marriage its just I see through the whole facade and have accepted the reality of it.

As beta as it may sound I've been fvcking lonely for a long time and it would be nice to have a girlfriend to share life with if you catch my drift.

Kinda sad what women have become.

 

[Burroughs]

You have to take into account the fact that most of those men don't know what the hell they're doing concerning women or marriage. The dudes here have good marriages because they chose the right woman, knows how to maintain attraction, lead the relationship etc. Sure marriage is still a big risk for any man but if you know what youre doing youre less likely to get screwed over.

the *right* woman huh

so you're trotting out the old NAWALT eh?

This post is moronic :crazy:

You are talking like Oprah

we have a 50% divorce rate....and a legal system that rapes men for 20 years after the marriage is over

the *right* women in a sane man's estimation can become the *wrong* women in the blink of an eye...usually after the kids are born....now she can use the law to bring holy hell on your back and there is NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT

men need to burn away their arrogance and understand that women only see them as wage slaves...it is our arrogance that paints other men as being less able to 'manage' and 'choose' than we...

all men are blind in the face of puzzy and a man marrying is proof of this.

 

[JoeMarron]

Lol its not arrogance its fact. Of course there are men that are far less able to manage and choose than others. The fact that there are thriving happy marriages and sexless tortuous marriages is proof of that. If you believe that marriage is a foolish gamble then thats fine but dont act like every man going into marriage is headed for certain doom.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Marriage is a form you fill out at the courthouse in exchange for paying a small fee. The extent to which it changes your life is entirely in your control.

If you're worried about your money, marry someone with more money and a better job. Currently in major US cities it is statistically easier for a young man to do that than a young woman, because women's employment rate and median salaries are higher than that of men. In the sense of being able to make your way in life by sponging off of someone else, men finally have equal rights.

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

I´m 25, and some of my friends are already getting married... I cannot see myself getting married, first because ,and I´m terribly sorry if sound a bad person, but I NEED to be physically attracted to the woman, otherwise I simply can´t love her.. And honestly I find that women tend to be most attractive at 19-21, I can´t feel any attraction to 25+ woman (saggy skin, out of shape, the ones who are not fat have either too much muscle or they are just anorexic) they simply let themselves go (specially if they are married)...

Second it seems a terrible prison to me, you leave your job (which is another prison) to go home and hear kids crying, a fat woman always complaining, then you just simply stop meeting new people. Not to mention that in your free time half of the programs at least, won´t be spent doing things you want, boring wife´s friends, long Sunday programs with their family you name it.
It doesn´t surprise me that half of the adults in this planet are always depressed they aren´t free! And I don´t want to become one of the zombies..

I think I want to travel, have new girlfriends, meet new people constantly etc.. And marriage simply doesn´t allow it.

Anyway if someone has a good perspective regards to marriage I would also like to hear you... every opinion is welcome.

Holy crap, what's in the water where you live? Saggy skin at 25?????
My ex was 28 and people thought she was 19.

 

[JdelaSilviera]

Lol, there are hot girls at 25 30 35 even 40+. But they become increasingly rarer, and part of the reason it becomes easier to score as men age, is because women feel they are not as pretty as they were... Although I think that scoring hot chicks becomes increasingly more difficult for the simple reason they are almost inexistent. What I´m really saying is that nothing compares to a 18 19 year old their hair, skin, body, smell everything is perfect ... And I do really find dangerous to date 25+ girls many of them feel already the clock ticking and they will marry a guy even if they don´t like him..

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

Lol, there are hot girls at 25 30 35 even 40+. But what I´m saying is that nothing compares to a 18 19 year old... And I do really find dangerous to date 25+ girls many of them feel already the clock ticking and they will marry a guy even if they don´t like him..

Here in Toronto girls in their 30's+ stay happily single and always ask: "where are all the GOOD men?" :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

You're welcome to come and check it out.

 

[PlayHer Man]

Lol, there are hot girls at 25 30 35 even 40+. But they become increasingly rarer, and part of the reason it becomes easier to score as men age, is because women feel they are not as pretty as they were... Although I think that scoring hot chicks becomes increasingly more difficult for the simple reason they are almost inexistent. What I´m really saying is that nothing compares to a 18 19 year old their hair, skin, body, smell everything is perfect ... And I do really find dangerous to date 25+ girls many of them feel already the clock ticking and they will marry a guy even if they don´t like him..

That's why you smash, bang and ride them like a rental car. Then leave them for some other sucker to "purchase".

Women are exactly like cars in every way....
Sex = Miles
Past boyfriends/husbands = previous owners.

New cars are always higher in value, better looking, in better condition and over all more fun (but more expensive). The newer the car.. usually the less previous owners

 

[Down Low]

Holy crap, what's in the water where you live? Saggy skin at 25?????
My ex was 28 and people thought she was 19.

My experience is that Latin Americans and blacks start off with tits very high on their chests, but that they sag much worse and much earlier than whites or especially yellows (the gold standard for least-saggy, but unfortunately, small breasts). Closer to the equator = darker skin = darker areolas, and also = less subcutaneous fat = saggier breasts.