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Anyone have any experience seducing a Siron type girl

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These are the kind of women who usually do the seducing, and are just magnetically attractive by nature. For me, when I am around this type of girl, and particularly the one I'm working on, I seem to get sucked into her web of influence, and whatever I do, doesnt seem to have much effect.

Keep in mind, I have not even made it entirely clear that I am interested in her. I am trying to be subtle and mysterious, or I feel i'll get blown out. I joke around a little about her effect on other men, without admitting it works on me as well. Ive been playing it cool, as if I dont really care, which I dont, but it would be great.

I am currently teaching her how to surf, so I have to look at her ass all the time in her brazilian bakini. Slightly torturouse. I'll also add that she is from the rain forest in brazil, but has much experience with traveling, and she speaks pretty good english.

She is pushing the realm of my dong fu expertise, so I am calling on a few of the masters for some guidence.

Humbly,

Dongfu
 

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If she has that type of effect on men, show her that youre different by not responding to any of it. Also try escalating on your own terms. Shes probably used to having all the power so strip her of it. She will be a fish out of water.
 

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Chaotixxx said:
If she has that type of effect on men, show her that youre different by not responding to any of it. Also try escalating on your own terms. Shes probably used to having all the power so strip her of it. She will be a fish out of water.
This is exactly what i've been doing. But i'm not seeing much progress. I'd like to move it along a little faster, as she is leaving in about a month.
 

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I heard that S. American women respond to bold aggresive moves, or is this not true?
 

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ketostix said:
I heard that S. American women respond to bold aggresive moves, or is this not true?
yeah, but those are the city girls, this girl is from the amazon countryside. The same rules dont apply, at all it seems. I really cant expect that anyone else has been in this situation, but she is definately a siron, so I want to approach it with that in mind.
 

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I goggled siron and I couldn't find anything. Were you talking about the Siren? Basically mythical woman beasts that lured men to their death with their song.

And yes I am always sucked into a womans web if she is attractive, it's even worse if she is nice to me :( I haven't seduced one yet but I would like to. It's a chick from Hawaii. I'd like her to teach my how to surf :whistle:
 

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Maxtro said:
I goggled siron and I couldn't find anything. Were you talking about the Siren? Basically mythical woman beasts that lured men to their death with their song.

And yes I am always sucked into a womans web if she is attractive, it's even worse if she is nice to me :( I haven't seduced one yet but I would like to. It's a chick from Hawaii. I'd like her to teach my how to surf :whistle:
Yeah, I meant siren. But not the mythical type. The "art of seduction" distinguishes sirens as having certain characteristics that are very seductive. I dont have alot of experience with this kind of woman, and this is the first time I have been really challenged in a while.

And for surfing, I thought teaching her would help me close the deal. I get to touch her alot to position her right, we're both half naked in paradise. It seems like there should be no problem. She is just really different than girls i'm used to working with.
 

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Dongfu said:
bakini. torturouse. guidence.
Dong- where did you learn to spell? lol......sorry to get off-topic.
 

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i think dong has put the girl on a pedestal because of her race and she wont like him for it
 

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She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

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One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Dilberto said:
Dong- where did you learn to spell? lol......sorry to get off-topic.
Eye wuz uh just cheking if you were paying atention :D

JK I type fast and dont always check how I spelled stuff. I can spel thuoth, I promis
 

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sebastionay said:
i think dong has put the girl on a pedestal because of her race and she wont like him for it
More with the "race" stuff huh. That's two in a row. Anyway, I definitely haven't
put her on a pedestal, as I often give her a hard time, in a playful way, and I make her swim after the surfboard when she looses it, and I make her open me coconuts to drink. :D
 

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the thing about sirens is that they are pretty much the girl playboys, they have their way with men..

with my experience i knew what helped me the most was to escalate and be bold... persistance, any kind of resistance just means "turn me on more" and have faith in yourself.
 

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xdreamz said:
the thing about sirens is that they are pretty much the girl playboys, they have their way with men..

with my experience i knew what helped me the most was to escalate and be bold... persistance, any kind of resistance just means "turn me on more" and have faith in yourself.
Sounds about right. The thing with this girl is she could have her way with most men, but she is very very selective, and she is mysterious and guarded about what turns her on. She is almost impossible to read, and I feel bold escalation might not be what she likes. I basically feel that all I can really do is be me, and if she wants to take it further she will let me know . . . somehow :confused:
 

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This is a damned cute thread. Like looking through the looking glass at a group of hopeful don juans.

I had a oneitis for a bit, then we became friends, **** buddies, and now shes my pivot. She hooked up with my old boss and he kept buying her stuff cause she wouldn't jump his bones when he didn't say anything about sex. He was hoping she could read his mind, it was so funny. You should have seen how heart broken he was after she told him "I have a boyfriend!!!" Man it was hilarious, about as hilarious as this thread.
 

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Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Bonez said:
This is a damned cute thread. Like looking through the looking glass at a group of hopeful don juans.

I had a oneitis for a bit, then we became friends, **** buddies, and now shes my pivot. She hooked up with my old boss and he kept buying her stuff cause she wouldn't jump his bones when he didn't say anything about sex. He was hoping she could read his mind, it was so funny. You should have seen how heart broken he was after she told him "I have a boyfriend!!!" Man it was hilarious, about as hilarious as this thread.
Yeah, hilarious :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

I can only say that because there is no limit to the ways a person can improve himself, there will always arise a situation that can catch you off guard. This particular situation has snagged me at the level I am at. Remember, while this is happening, I am toggling three other girls, approaching daily, and fending off a stalker. So dont feel too much pity there guy. chao
 
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