"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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anyone ever give a businees card to a taken women?

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i had recently started a small business, and heard of some guys maybe giving there card to a girl, and wondering some of yalls opinons on it. if a girl is single and she said she wasnt dating wright now ect. i wouldnt bother giving her one, since she just not interested. when a girl has a man(not married or engaged just in a relatioship), i think you never know, her man or she could break up anytime and she might have thought you were a really good lookin guy possibly succesful and keep your card for possibly that instance. now i know the percentages would be rather really low on a good looking girl probly bothering to keep your card or ever bother using it, since they get lots of attention, but i see it as theres nothing to loose and theres one, one day that possibly might just use it huh?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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It's kind of try-hard. You shouldn't overtly tell a woman that you're successful. Let her find out on her own.

However, writing her number down on one of your own business cards is cool. Just don't make a big show out of it.

Women can smell supplication from a mile away.
 

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Vice said:
It's kind of try-hard. You shouldn't overtly tell a woman that you're successful. Let her find out on her own.

However, writing her number down on one of your own business cards is cool. Just don't make a big show out of it.

Women can smell supplication from a mile away.
i dont understand why you would be writing her number down on a card if shes taken, if she gave me her number if she was interested i would put it in my phone wright?
 

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Vice got his words mixed up, I think. You have nothing to lose by giving you her card. If she is interested she will give you a call. Handing a girl your business call is quick and efficient to getting good results. I honestly don't want to get every girls number that I am interested in. I can text them a couple times and have my tmie wasten figuring out that she has a man or she just isn't interested. If you give them your number and tell them when to hit you up then that is better. If/When she does hit you up there is a 100% chance she is interested in you. Ain't no way around it.
 

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Here is o ne thing
Don't mix your business life with personal life.
If you are on a business trip handle interactions as formal. But i don't think its a good idea to use your business cards to pick up chicks. Even if you own your own business that might hurt it.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Through personal experience, as with giving YOUR number to a girl, only a few girls will ever respond. You have to ask for theirs too. Its too snotty just throwin them a card, trying to be alpha and expecting a call. The trick is too hand your business card and ask for theirs.

The strange thing is, I only thought about this today, as I was at the gas station and the most MOFO MILF was fillin up. Oh my days shes was begging for nuttin, ooohh, I said to my worker, watch me. Strolled over to her 45 year old butt, and used my classic " Hi there, Im Mark, Im a tree surgeon, and if you need any trees cutting, call me, if u dont have any trees, I'll trim your bush, no problem".............. she smiled and took the card........ I'll leave it as a maybe ;)
 

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TonyBaloney said:
Through personal experience, as with giving YOUR number to a girl, only a few girls will ever respond. You have to ask for theirs too. Its too snotty just throwin them a card, trying to be alpha and expecting a call. The trick is too hand your business card and ask for theirs.



I have to respectfully disagree with you my friend.

One of the best ways to tell if a woman is truly interested in you is if she CALLS YOU. Think about it for a minute: imagine how many times an attractive woman gives out (or has the opportunity to give out) her number in a week to random guys who approach and ask for it. You can get a woman's number today, call her a few days later, and she may act like she doesn't even know you (and she genuinely might not remember you).

Contrary to popular belief, getting a woman's number doesn't necessarily mean she's interested in you. Women give out their numbers for different reasons (E.g. just to be nice, ego gratification, flattery,etc.). Sure, fewer women my actually call you, but you'll know the ones who do are definitely interested.

However, if a woman calls YOU first, that's a very good indication that she has a high degree of interest in you....Giving out your number/card is a good way to "work with the willing," so to speak, instead of trying to seduce a girl whose interest is either not as strong as yours or is nonexistent.
 

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While it's nice to fantasize about girls calling us, that is not reality.

Giving your card is ok in terms of showing a woman you have a stable address, but there is only a 1% chance a girl will call you if you give her your card. Even if they like you they won't call. Plus, it's seen as weak, and a way to avoid rejection. Why not look her right in the eye and say "What do you think?"
 

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bigneil said:
While it's nice to fantasize about girls calling us, that is not reality.

Giving your card is ok in terms of showing a woman you have a stable address, but there is only a 1% chance a girl will call you if you give her your card. Even if they like you they won't call. Plus, it's seen as weak, and a way to avoid rejection. Why not look her right in the eye and say "What do you think?"

A 1% chance? Where do you get your statistics from? If a man presents himself well, exudes confidence, and at the end of a conversation hands out a card and says "It was a pleasure talking to you. Give me a call on Friday (or any day you choose) so we can make plans for (fill in the blank)." That comes off as weak to you?

Calling a girl first doesn't necessarily increase your odds. Ultimately, either she's interested, or she isn't, and if she is, she'll call you. Period. Simply put, handing out cards is a great way to screen girls, because if they call you, you KNOW they're interested.

It's worked for me, anyway, when I was single....
 

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Jglide man, With respect, your either very young or very inexperienced.

In principle, every man would think handing over a suave looking card would work, but it doesnt. You have either been very randomly lucky or your exagerating your stats with perhaps a few lucky call backs, and thinking that how it is, when it isnt.

How do I know this? Because I thought exactly like you, as I had early success which I now put down to luck. You live and learn, and a few non call backs will confirm my viewpoint to you.

I'd say at the very most, a one in 20 - and to be honest, a girl who shows her hand as that desperate is screaming red flags - do u see what i'm saying?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Jglide man, With respect, your either very young or very inexperienced.

In principle, every man would think handing over a suave looking card would work, but it doesnt. You have either been very randomly lucky or your exagerating your stats with perhaps a few lucky call backs, and thinking that how it is, when it isnt.

How do I know this? Because I thought exactly like you, as I had early success which I now put down to luck. You live and learn, and a few non call backs will confirm my viewpoint to you.

I'd say at the very most, a one in 20 - and to be honest, a girl who shows her hand as that desperate is screaming red flags - do u see what i'm saying?
 

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I'm 29, with a good amount of experience with women. Exaggerating what stats, Tony? I've had girls call me, and I've called some girls. I simply think it's more effective to have them call you (while specifying a time). Also, if I hand out 20 cards and you get 20 numbers, the odds aren't drastically different: some chicks will be interested, some wont. It's called life.

So you think that getting a girls number, you somehow increase your odds? As I stated before, a chick is either interested or not. You calling 1st, or 2nd, or 25th makes no real difference. Trust me, if a girl is interested in you, she'll call you.

There is nothing wrong with calling girls, but every schmuck out there is asking chicks for their numbers, calling them, trying to game them. Why not try something different every once and a while?
 

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jglide123 said:
I'm 29, with a good amount of experience with women. Exaggerating what stats, Tony? I've had girls call me, and I've called some girls. I simply think it's more effective to have them call you (while specifying a time). Also, if I hand out 20 cards and you get 20 numbers, the odds aren't drastically different: some chicks will be interested, some wont. It's called life.

So you think that getting a girls number, you somehow increase your odds? As I stated before, a chick is either interested or not. You calling 1st, or 2nd, or 25th makes no real difference. Trust me, if a girl is interested in you, she'll call you.

There is nothing wrong with calling girls, but every schmuck out there is asking chicks for their numbers, calling them, trying to game them. Why not try something different every once and a while?
well said
 

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jglide123 said:
I'm 29, with a good amount of experience with women. Exaggerating what stats, Tony? I've had girls call me, and I've called some girls. I simply think it's more effective to have them call you (while specifying a time). Also, if I hand out 20 cards and you get 20 numbers, the odds aren't drastically different: some chicks will be interested, some wont. It's called life.

So you think that getting a girls number, you somehow increase your odds? As I stated before, a chick is either interested or not. You calling 1st, or 2nd, or 25th makes no real difference. Trust me, if a girl is interested in you, she'll call you.

There is nothing wrong with calling girls, but every schmuck out there is asking chicks for their numbers, calling them, trying to game them. Why not try something different every once and a while?
True but you will lose some chances with girls who have interest in you. Most girls are too scared to make the first move unless they're really desperate. All due to social conditioning.
 

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A 1% chance? Where do you get your statistics from?
I'm quoting Louis/Copeland "How to Succeed with Women" (2000), validated by my personal 25 years of dating HB8+ women. I thought that giving out my card was cool at age 26. In 1996.

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If a man presents himself well, exudes confidence, and at the end of a conversation hands out a card and says "It was a pleasure talking to you. Give me a call on Friday (or any day you choose) so we can make plans for (fill in the blank)."
Winner! AFC of the week!

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That comes off as weak to you?
Yes.

I would have kissed her and gotten her number versus trying to sound like Clark Gable and leaving it to chance.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I'm quoting Louis/Copeland "How to Succeed with Women" (2000), validated by my personal 25 years of dating HB8+ women. I thought that giving out my card was cool at age 26. In 1996.


Winner! AFC of the week!


Yes.

I would have kissed her and gotten her number versus trying to sound like Clark Gable and leaving it to chance.
I get AFC of the Week? Wow! Thanks bro!

Since I've reached the pinnacle of AFCism, perhaps I should get some really nifty routines, study the habits of some great alpha males, become an alpha myself, and work my way up to over 1,000 posts like you! Then I can be a super alpha male ...Just....like....YOU!

Then maybe, just MAYBE, around post 850 or so...I could be Alpha Male of the week!!! Then maybe I can date HB 8's too....

Thanks bro! You just gave me something to aspire to!
 

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Your trippin Bigneil. If giving girls your number is AFC then I'm the biggest AFC on this board. I got too much going on to be playing games with girls on the phone. By me being direct and giving them instructions I can easily tell if there really trying to mess with me or not. No games and no time wasten.
 

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@ prettyboy - I am not disputing giving cards to women, I just KNOW that via social conditioning, its not the case that u will have as higher sucess rate as MUTUALLY exchanging numbers or asking for their number - Come on prettyboy, get ur head out of ur arse - we're all players here, it looks insecure trying to make urself out to be a supreme master of this. Everybody gets knock backs. Harder they fall and all that......

@jglide123 - I think from ur last post, we reached the meat of what your saying "whats wrong with trying a new tactic" thats very different to being a long established, successful way. Other DJs of experience are saying here, that its a dead end street. Think about it.....

Tony
 

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Your trippin Bigneil. If giving girls your number is AFC then I'm the biggest AFC on this board. I got too much going on to be playing games with girls on the phone. By me being direct and giving them instructions I can easily tell if there really trying to mess with me or not. No games and no time wasten.

Exactly AJ!

These guys think that by calling a chick, they are somehow in control of the situation. Again, nothing necessarily wrong with calling a girl, but it's a matter of working with chicks who you KNOW are interested, rather than wasting time calling ones who have lukewarm interest levels at best.

I'm speaking from experience, not theory or something that I read from a book. As I've gotten older, I'm just more direct and to the point. When I was younger, I'd spent years getting girls' numbers. Some turned out well, while many of them flaked or really weren't that interested (imagine how many guys call attractive girls).

Once again: by giving a chick your number, you discover her level of interest much more definitely. If she calls, cool. If she doesn't, then that's one less time-wasting, flaky chick you have to deal with. All in all, it's a numbers game, just like getting a girls number; some will be feeling you, some wont, no big deal either way.

Sure, most chicks probably wont call if you give them your number, but with the ones who do, you know half the work is already done.
 

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PrettyBoy wrote "No games and no time wasten" as he gives out HIS number??

Why not ask her if she wants to talk to you?

BTW, I'm quoting a classic book (actually found at Barnes and Noble) that I read 12 years ago, and which I applied for 12 years, scoring with at least 50 hot women over that time, and never once giving out my card (unless it had a party invitation on it or she asked for it).

Once again: by giving a chick your number you show her you are wussy who fears rejection. It is a very big deal either way, you wuss.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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