i dont have a license yet so i gotta grab a ride to the mall or other place. i have WAY more fear approaching girls when im being watched by my friends rather than be by myself. when im by myself i know i have no one watching me and i can completely focus on the chicks. i have gotten numbers with my friends present, but im so much more relaxed when they arent there. when i see a group of girls and im with my friends they just start being like "go talk to them!!". im like "NO ****!!". and then they just sit there and watch me. i tell them stuff like "go over there" or "go outside". then i go to talk to them and they crawl back and pretty much sit there and watch me talk to the girls. ive started to realize this is something im gonna have to do by myself when there is no distractions. do any of you guys feel the same way as me???
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anyone else go pickup chicks on there own rather than with friends???
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yea.... i think as i get better it wont bother me as much, but i know exactly what you mean. As to get your friends away it will be easier if you go with ONE guy (or girl if shes cool) and then both of you walk up to a group. Dont walk up to a girl if shes along, because thats just gonna make her feel uneasy (2 guys, one girl...) but your not alone, alot of people have that feeling
I prefer to sarge alone. My friends usually hold me back, one way or another. The only problem with sarging alone is it makes it harder to close a girl who's with her friend(s). But it's usually not too hard to find a girl who's on her own if you sarge during the day.
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Choose the right friend to bring w/ you
. I did that w/ a friend recently, He and I hit up teh mall (to no avail) but we made an agreement whre, if one of us found a girl teh other would handle the girl's friend or lay back if shes was alone. Godo to get it outta the way ahead of time."So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
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