"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Anybody got any arguments why I shouldn't go after a girl with a bf?

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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BacardiGuy

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First, you just want to be sure the other guy isn't going to turn out to be a psychopath murderer.

Second, that the girl has the class to dump the other guy as opposed to cheat on him with you. Otherwise, you'll likely end up in his boat at some point. (This I guess is only important if you want a relationship and not a ONS. Personally, I wouldn't have a ONS with a girl in a relationship, but that's just because of my own morals, YMMV.)

With that knowledge in hand, may the better man win I say.
 

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I do think it is alright to a certain degree. The term bros before ho's is universal though and I would have to meet with the guy to see if he is cool. If he is a great guy I could not do it, also if he had a disease I would feel really bad about it. My answer to your question is I don't know. It seems to me you feel strongly about it. Always listen to your first thought even if it is hard to do.
 

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It's unrealistic to wait for a girl to break up with her bf to start dating other guys. Most if not half the girls are in a relationship with a guy because old habits die hard, such girls wait for something better to come along and upgrade or cheat at the drop of a hat.
And yes that metaphor does ring true.

Everybody has morals, most women dont. However the case, if the girl was going to dump her bf eventually, and that 'metaphor' rings true in the situation then i see nothing wrong with the picture if you choose to go after her.
 

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izza said:
Some say, it is difficult to find a quality girl without stealing her from some boyfriend.

Please, what do you think?
Ok trust me on this. I have a habit of going after "taken" women. If you can steal them,THEY AREN'T WORTH A LONG TERM RELATIONSHIP. If they truely are a "quality" girl then they would break up with their current boyfriend and go out with you like they should,SINGLE,NOT SNEAKING AROUND THEIR BOYFRIEND'S BACK.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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there is no answer.

you know its "wrong" somehow, or else considering if its wrong would never have entered your head.

in the end, the only person whose actions you have to face is you, so if it doesnt bother you do it. if it makes you feel uncomfortable, dont do it

i wouldnt.
 

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If she can dump someone to be with you, she can dump you to be with someone else.

Seriously, there are 3 billion hoes in this world. They aren't all up to scratch, but they sure as hell aren't all taken. And anyone who says otherwise is full of it.

I don't believe in karma, cosmic forces of revenge or anything like that, but I do believe in having respect for people. You wouldn't want any guy trying to slip into your girls pants right?

I've stolen girls. I've been beaten up and beaten others up for stealing girls. I've seen others steal girls, and i've seen one put into hospital for stealing a girl. I'd like to think not every guy is a violent nutcase, but show a little respect for his woman and you won't need to find out :up:

There are plenty of fish in the sea. It's cliche because it's true, yet todays society has a habit of thinking of excuses rather than solutions. It's up to you to distinguish between right and wrong though :up:
 

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I'm with Exp, she's an adult and makes her own choices. No one steals someone from anyone else. If she believes that she will be happier with you than she is in her current relationship than she will end it. If you beat someone up because your girlfriend broke up with you and went out with someone else, you are a loser who cannot deal with his emotions.

If you are attracted to her than persue. That's your choice. Whether she breaks it off with her boyfriend for you, is her choice.

There's nothing wrong with looking out for others, but at the end of the day you should be looking out for yourself and only yourself.
 

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donjuanjovi said:
I'm with Exp, she's an adult and makes her own choices. No one steals someone from anyone else. If she believes that she will be happier with you than she is in her current relationship than she will end it. If you beat someone up because your girlfriend broke up with you and went out with someone else, you are a loser who cannot deal with his emotions.

If you are attracted to her than persue. That's your choice. Whether she breaks it off with her boyfriend for you, is her choice.

There's nothing wrong with looking out for others, but at the end of the day you should be looking out for yourself and only yourself.
Donjuanjovi, watch that loser bit buddy. I guess I forgot to add in the part where he got her pissed off her rocker so he could get into her pants. He paid the price, she paid the price. So yeah, he did deserve to get drilled, and she did deserve to get her ass dumped. So much for him being one of my best mates huh? That's my reasoning for kicking his ass.

Maybe i'm old fashioned. Maybe I do hold my values of complete loyalty and respect way too high, but that's just the way I am.

Of course it takes two to tango as well, but i'm not a female. Obviously the girl has 50% responsibility, but that's not my worry. As a man, I expect the man to be in control of situations.

I've always come from the view that if a girl is taken, she's off-limits. If their relationships isn't going anywhere, then they will end it when it's time. It's just my values, and maybe my losses, but don't knock me for it. I've got no beef with someone of different standings either, as long as someone holds true to their morals, i'm happy :up:
 

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The choice is yours man. If you've never spoken with or seen her boyfriend it makes it a lot easier (experience speaking here) on your conscience.

In this game, you'll eventually have to take on a girl who's in a LTR. It may be unfair to think that way, but 9 times out of 10 the girl you truly want is in a relationship.

It works both ways. If you do get her, eventually another guy will come along with the same intentions towards her and you'll be here asking us how to handle the situation.

What ever you do, be careful cause it's some crazy MOFOs out there bra.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Before you attempt to steal another guys girlfriend I would suggest that you take a look at the guy first, or else your days on this Earth could be over, if he is obsessed by the girl forget about it, if he isn't and is the type of guy who is either a super-wimp, or one who is very popular with girls that he can replace her easily then go for it, but be very careful, :yawn:
 

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why do you care what a bunch of randoms on the internet think about you going after a girl with a boyfriend? fair enough asking for advice,but who cares if anyone thinks its a bad idea,ive done it once before,the guy turned out to mistreat her and act like a wanker (never see her,not care much etc etc),and i gave her the attention she wanted,she *****ed about him and i simply filled in the gaps he wasnt,me and her got close and this guy didnt even know who i was,he dumped her she was sad.. he didnt care at all,then 2 weeks later me and her started going out,she broke up with me for unbeknown reasons just 2 weeks later,and now she is the biggest ****block and i wish i never dated her
 
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