Any woman over the age of 25 needs to give you a good reason on why she is still single

[SW15]

even had the nerve to send me the video of her kissing the guy in Hawaii for the wedding and said she hoped we could still be friends.

Friendship would be unacceptable in that case, even if it were a much younger woman.

One of the best things I've done over my 25+ years participating in the mating environment is avoid the friend zone with women I've found attractive. The one friendship I had with a woman where I wasn't physically attracted ended poorly too.

Women are the gatekeepers of sex. Men are the gatekeepers of commitment, supposedly.

Women can get sex easily at any age. It won't guarantee commitment. Most men couldn't get a commitment for a relationship within a month of trying.

Accurate

 

[Solomon]

Exactly because it’s a question women ask, not men. Anyone asking this question should go ask what’s really on their mind, ‘how many guys have you slept with?’

Not to mention it’s incongruent: A later in life bachelor has basically two ways to come off; a confident, nonchalant man who is going his own way and welcoming life for the ride… or, someone willing to ask a conflict creating question, willing to put someone unnecessarily on the defensive, ie a personality issue ridden, multiple times passed over, not good enough for someone else so why good for me type guy… anyone asking this question is running the second option and immediately going to set off a subconscious or worse, conscious set of crimson red flags

any man that asks this question is going to get eaten alive for lunch by whoever he asks it to

I totally agree with this, there are certain questions I don't ask women anymore because 1. I really don't care and 2. They will lie to you or give you a political answer. Asking a woman why she is single is basically asking a woman "What's wrong with you?" I can assume OP doesn't mean that but that's how women will perceive it. Just like when guys ask the body count question, a woman can lie about it. Her actions and behaviors will tell you if she has a high body count or not.

Another question I don't bother to ask anymore, "Why did your last relationship end?" it's pointless because in every story the woman is always the victim. I have yet to hear a woman take some accountability and say "I fucced up". The only insight you get from that question is how bad she badmouths her ex because most likely she will badmouth you the same way if you were to date her.

Sometimes it's best to pay attention to actions then words especially when we are talking about women.

 

[SW15]

1. Divorced dads are cool because they understand the frame of reference about being married (and the level of committment that entails) as well as parenting (and the level of responsibility that requires). So that is a pro for divorced dads. Never married childless men do not "get it." although they will get up the learning curve on the marriage commitment level if they do marry. Parenting not so much.

If an 35+ never married and childless man marries a 35+ never married and childless women, parenting children from a woman's previous relationships is not an issue.

I am impressed that I've gotten into my early 40s and have had few interactions with single moms.

With never married childless men you aren't dealing with ex-wife drama or with drama from the guy's children either. Many parents fail to properly manage themselves, the co-parent (ex) and the kids. So that's a pro for never married childless men.

This is something that I use in marketing/selling myself to the opposite sex in my interactions.

 

[BaronOfHair]

He has been telling me for awhile how conservative he & his friends are

Harry Hay and his 60s Marxist brethren are "conservative", compared to the typical Yale grad or Op-Ed writer over at Vox today. This ain't hard to achieve

 

[BaronOfHair]

I totally agree with this I have posted numerous studies and links in the past that show various reasons as to why Gen-Z men aren't dating their counterparts
Also Gen-Z men are the most conservative generation in nearly a 100 years

A similar cultural shift occurred in The 1980s: Reference Alex P. Keaton, and the song Hip To Be Square, for starters. While it's possible that the younguns really have "grown more conservative", there's also a far more prosaic and probable explanation for all of this:

Both The Counterculture Of The late 60s-mid 70s and more recently Wokeness were inherently unsustainable. Goals like finding residence in a decent neighborhood, snagging a well-paying job, falling in love, raising 2.5 kids, then splitting up once said kids are out of the nest is, generally speaking, the natural course of events for most human beings

 

[Manure Spherian]

How the heck is this increasing his SMV in the eyes of any sane woman who doesn't have a truckload of baggage herself?

Pre-selection perhaps.

 

[justaroundthecorner]

Most women can find sex and even committed boyfriends easily.

If an overweight woman in her 40s has no issues finding boyfriends, then imagine what it must be like for a fit, 30 year old woman to find sex or a boyfriend.

Does that overweight woman in her 40s have children?

I always wonder "wtf,why dude " when I see well built guy with Karen . I am just bit more than 5.8 in height and I was at gym years ago - I was still able to date & marry cute, over 7 years younger woman that went from slim to super slim after giving me a child and there are those guys that put tremendous amount of muscles on themselves and when I see their partners I always wonder 'wtf, what was the purpose of putting all this work, eating all these gainers, doing all those cycles of training (and of god knows what chemicals) to get into great shape, only to go after average or below average woman?' But perhaps they are "early alpha types" (school pack leaders) that score with girls early and most of them just stay with their school love/crush (that looked much different +20 years ago) or - not being trained in dealing with rejection - simply stick to the chick that provides no challenge in aspects of relationship maintenance out of feeling comfortable with her - and all the pus.sies get wet and warm for you pretty much the same... . I was a nerd at high school and sucked in relationships while early alphas were already eating honey - it seems easy victory makes you weak.

 

[BeExcellent]

Harry Hay and his 60s Marxist brethren are "conservative", compared to the typical Yale grad or Op-Ed writer over at Vox today. This ain't hard to achieve

No I agree. When public high schools are promoting gender transition surgery for minors (not kidding) then you know the school district is being run by pedophiles and wacko weirdos who say its self expression when its really promoting self multilation.

Some young people die as a result of these completely unnecessary surgeries. Doctors performing them should be sued into oblivion and prosecuted for manslaughter for the needless deaths.

Some of these young people deeply regret surgically mutilating their bodies after the fact but nobody is holding the responsible adults accountable....YET.

Absolutely horrible. But teens are starting to see it for what it is and reject it. But its very VERY scary.

Coming soon to a high school near you if it isn't already well established.

My son's family will homeschool. This is one of the reasons why.

 

[BaronOfHair]

No I agree. When public high schools are promoting gender transition surgery for minors (not kidding) then you know the school district is being run by pedophiles and wacko weirdos who say its self expression when its really promoting self multilation

To be fair, this kinda sorta makes perfect sense, in the case of the occasional Clay Aiken or Timmy Chalamet. Hell, J. Depp could've possibly saved a few bucks + A fair amount of heartache, had he(quite literally) cut right to the chase during HIS early adulthood

, rather than nibbling around at the edges the way he did


"But teens are starting to see it for what it is and reject it"

Is that what's going on, or is this a combination of the fad wearing off + Kids simply doing the opposite of what their elders endorse, as a means of individuation? Serious question, BE... All this talk in the press regarding a "conservative backlash" among the young sounds eerily reminiscent of a similar cultural shift that occurred during The Regan Years. A cultural shift that had sputtered out by time The early 90s were upon us

 

[Manure Spherian]

to get into great shape, only to go after average or below average woman?

Maybe stuff like being a great mother and wife, good at what she does, comes from a caring, helpful, and/or rich family, talent, a great homemaker, knows how to garden, cook, high IQ.

 

[MatureDJ]

I've heard a similar phenomenon exists for men, only the age threshold for men doesn't come as early as 25.

What I've heard is: If a man is pushing 40, yet never married, it raises red flags to a woman.

What if the reason he hasn't married is because he is short?

 

[SW15]

When public high schools are promoting gender transition surgery for minors (not kidding) then you know the school district is being run by pedophiles and wacko weirdos who say its self expression when its really promoting self mutilation.

Coming soon to a high school near you if it isn't already well established.

My son's family will homeschool. This is one of the reasons why.

Public, K-12 education in the USA has been on a long term downward spiral. It wasn't even in a good place when I was in my K-12 years (mainly the 1990s).

Homeschooling and private schools have long been better options. Costs of private schools have gotten very expensive.

 

[MatureDJ]

I have no studies to back this up. Just an observation and gut feeling.

It does appear that, all else being equal (height, hair and $), for over 40 guys, the divorced guy has an SMV edge over the single never married guy.

This can be explained by survivor bias. The divorced man was at least desirable enough for some woman to marry him, whereas the never-married man does not include any man that has been divorced. This is like saying that divorced men are taller than average men, and thus are somehow not good.

 

[SW15]

What if the reason he hasn't married is because he is short?

Short men are at a major disadvantage in the mating environment in the USA and Westernized countries.

Neil Strauss is a great example of this. Neil Strauss' 5'6" height and early onset balding made him virtually invisible to women despite having an Ivy League degree.

Women won't expend the mental energy to think about that factor if evaluating a late 30s/early 40s. Most of them will skip over a short man entirely.

Millennial White women in the USA have been trained to think that 6'0"+ men are what they want. Even average height range men aren't treated that well. Millennial women are now over 25 (the youngest Millennials turn 29 in 2025). The 2 most recent generation of adult women in the USA have been trained to think that 6'0"+ is the holy grail.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Maybe stuff like being a great mother and wife, good at what she does, comes from a caring, helpful, and/or rich family, talent, a great homemaker, knows how to garden, cook, high IQ.

To continue, I’ll add that the most handsome men I know from my old whereabouts married ordinary or moderately-attractive women.

 

[Mike32ct]

Short men are at a major disadvantage in the mating environment in the USA and Westernized countries.

Neil Strauss is a great example of this. Neil Strauss' 5'6" height and early onset balding made him virtually invisible to women despite having an Ivy League degree.

I know you’ve mentioned NS many times. I haven’t followed him in years, but I think he was also a metrosexual. Like a straight dude with gay-ish or effeminate mannerisms and voice. Some PUAs back in the day had that, and it made them very disarming to women. So they wouldn’t initially be blown out (rejected) on the basis of looks. They could at least get a good conversation going and work with that.

 

[SW15]

I know you’ve mentioned NS many times. I haven’t followed him in years, but I think he was also a metrosexual. Like a straight dude with gay-ish or effeminate mannerisms and voice. Some PUAs back in the day had that, and it made them very disarming to women. So they wouldn’t initially be blown out (rejected) on the basis of looks. They could at least get a good conversation going and work with that.

Neil Strauss is one of the most successful seduction students of all time. Under the guidance of Mystery and other PUAs, he transformed from a non-factor in the mating market (due to shortness and balding) to a guy who put up an impressive notch count.

There was a bit of a metrosexual trend in the 2000s when Strauss was learning seduction. Metrosexuality can take on different forms. More masculine men can be metrosexual by taking on more self-care processes and using higher end appearance products. Strauss has had more effeminate mannerisms. That can be disarming but it's not going to necessary attract women. It is better to have a more masculine outward appearance and mannerisms.

I've never understood how Strauss became a good seducer from his outward appearance.

 

[BaronOfHair]

What if the reason he hasn't married is because he is short?

A predilection for rationalizing not achieving one's goals is less appealing than the prospect of being locked in a storage unit co-occupied by a famished grizzly bear. Not just to women, but to EVERYONE. That includes regularly using one's height as a justification for not getting what you want

 

[BaronOfHair]

Neil Strauss is one of the most successful seduction students of all time...

I've never understood how Strauss became a good seducer from his outward appearance.

More than a few accounts indicate he exaggerated/fabricated his studmuffin status

 

[CoolWave1331]

This sounds like a good rule - have to take into consideration educational pursuits

I have two sisters (i'm middle child). Both are considered "attractive" my older sister was single until 25 or 26, she had just completed medical schoo and started internship when she met the man who would become her husband, at the hospital. She genuinely had no time for relationships before although i'm sure there were guys after her etc. Where my family is from in north caucasus it's seen as unusual to reach her age and not have significant other, my extended family tease her sometime.

I'd say if woman is like approaching 30 and gives off impression just spent 20's partying, this is a bad sign and steer clear. Not a serious person