"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Any tips for dealing with Russian girls and their BS?

pikachu69

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I have dated a few Russian girls and I have discovered they seem to play a lot more games and go to greater lengths to cause drama than the average HB. I don't know if it's a clash of culture or they expect men to put up with their BS but I am getting tired of it. Can anyone give me any tips on what to do differently dealing with such females?

I know in their culture men are men and women are women. However, I have noticed that say for instance you arrange a date with 1 and she cancels she almost never will counter offer with another time expecting the man to come back. If she does it twice then she's not interested, but I have experienced that if you get that initial cancellation it does not mean she's not interested but playing a silly game to see how into her you are.

I've noticed also they all pull that eyes looking down avoiding all possible eye contact pretending they don't see you with a stern look on their face like they've got together to discuss how to do it hahaha.

Even with girls I was friends with but never wanted to get with pull this same stunt! It can't be a coincidence.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I took out one Russian girl in my life and although it seemed to have went well, I dealt with very similar issues when trying to hang out with her again. After the dinner we had together she expressed interest to hang out with me again, and even contacted me a few times seeing what I was doing. Sometimes I'd be doing something, and I'd simply reply "lifting weights" or whatever and then she wouldn't say anything back.

Then there were a few times where I'd text her, see if she wanted to hang out, and then she'd agree, only to stop responding. I never liked her enough to chase after her, which may have been what she wanted, so I never really had a second date with her. Too much bs.

Don't really get it, but at least I can say I know what you're talking about.
 

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pikachu69 just don't give in to her games! Russian girls take advantage of us because they see us as weaker then the men from their homeland (and it is true). Russian guys are tough they don't put up with their crap over there and they will beat their ass if they mis-behave. But they get over here and once they get a little taste of western corruption most become lost cases like the rest.

Don't let her games rattle you, don't show that you are bothered by them, show assertiveness and don't show too much interest in them. Russian girls know they are sort of an exotic item and are in great demand so your games needs to be even tighter with them and you can't let them influence you by putting her on a pedestal and treating her like a prize.
 

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lol all you guys that talk **** about American women should take note. All women are pretty much the same all around the world. There are some good ones and tons of bad ones.
 

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Pie in the Sky said:
lol all you guys that talk **** about American women should take note. All women are pretty much the same all around the world. There are some good ones and tons of bad ones.
They are not bad...IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES!

If you want to get a real woman you need to travel abroad and pick them fresh from their countries of origin. Coming to the west will corrupt any woman and in cases like Russian girls who a lot happen to be very hot they will be corrupted even faster with all the attention they get.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Impress her with your knowledge of her home country by using unique negs like "yes, I'll take you to the big theatre in st petersburg, but I don't know if you're worthy of the extra cost of buying a program"
 

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I think you guys know what I'm talking about, my other thread about them looking down avoiding eye contact is really about them! Haha. I should probably list some problems and please feel free to post answers how to deal with them. A lot are so spoilt they expect u to sit around trying to make u run around while they take u for granted. Should u walk away more and not react to their games?
 

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f283000 said:
pikachu69 just don't give in to her games! Russian girls take advantage of us because they see us as weaker then the men from their homeland (and it is true).
Source for that theory?


Actually, there is a phenomenon in Russia where a girl keeps one guy as her "pension," who is expected to give her money and pot, while she also has a real boyfriend who she gives up the sex to.
 

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f283000 said:
They are not bad...IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES!

If you want to get a real woman you need to travel abroad and pick them fresh from their countries of origin. Coming to the west will corrupt any woman and in cases like Russian girls who a lot happen to be very hot they will be corrupted even faster with all the attention they get.
So. Russian men are stronger than Western men. And Russian women are good in their home country, and only act bad when they come to the West. So we Westerners are just inferior in every way, and non-Westerners only act bad because of contact with Westerners.

You wouldn't happen to be Russian or otherwise of East European ancestry, would you?
 

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If she starts to act spoilt and starts flaking etc will NC'ing really work on a russian girl? I would have thought it may show her you're not that interested in her.

I don't know if all the DJ rules still apply to them. I understand essentially they're still women so respond to their emotions, so actions. not words.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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What differences in regards to tactics would you use for Russian girls instead of Western HBs?
 

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FRENCH women look like men ?
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Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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I love Russian women because they are women-- not girls like many Americans are.

From my experience they will give you the best sex and will say no to nothing in bed as long as you treat them with PROVEN love which is good restaurants and quality time together. They are high maintenance but they are worth it as long as you can be a MAN by putting up with here BS because she will put up with anything in the bedroom. ANYTHING.

Russian women are high maintenance but they know and HONOR their part which is contrary to the average American girl who thinks she might be considered a slut. Russian women KNOW they are sluts and are proud to demonstrate it to a man who can be her pimp. After all, WE all know the value of PINK.
 

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A$$hole game. Learn it, live it, love it. Women from Eastern Europe and Russian respond exceedingly well to it. Not entirely sure why, but it seems to be a solid politically incorrect truth.
 

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Nutz said:
A$$hole game. Learn it, live it, love it. Women from Eastern Europe and Russian respond exceedingly well to it. Not entirely sure why, but it seems to be a solid politically incorrect truth.
Can you give examples of this i.e. what to do?

If you try to arrange a date with her she'll agree, then just cancel last minute saying she wants to go partying with her girls. She expects you to come back with a new time.

Are you saying set up another date time then just cancel on her and then ignore her for a bit to p1ss her off?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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