Any other attractive dudes feel jealousy from other guys

[captain55]

i Notice my friends don’t invite me to events when hot chicks are around. Recently I pulled a 9 after my buddy struck out with her and he still tried to game her even after she showed interest in me. This makes me feel uncomfortable because im not an ******* that’s going to tell my friends “you can’t bang the girls I do so stop hating” I’ve hooked my friends up with a ton of ass over the years.

I also notice a lot of my friends hate on a girl I’m dating especially if she’s really hot. It’s getting to a point where I won’t even tell my friends if I ****ed a girl or not.

Curious if any other guys deal with this? Curious if any atttactive guys have a hard time developing a social circle because of this too? Women generally aren’t friends with me. I’ll either **** a girl or she’s not interested. And even if she’s not interested I’ll pursue her in a masculine enough way to where she will still go out with me.

I can’t be the only dude that deals with this ****. Watch your back guys, most of your friends or so called “wingmen” don’t want you to succeed. Make sure your wingmen are on the same level as you

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Hopefully you'll out grow your loser friends. Most of them are jealous of you and each other. I've hung out with many jealous friends C blocking, hating... Generally most men want to be the top dog or appear that way. The things they do to impress women is cringe. Like you I hooked my friends up with a ton of cheeks, most of them never appreciated it, some did return the favor, but let another circumstance with a woman happen and they'll hate on something else.
You can see the dejectedness in their eyes and body language if a girl randomly calls you cute or shows interest. Me being a friend would tell my boys "to that chick is checking you out"

 

[zekko]

I usually dont deal with it even though i usually always get attention over my guy friends. It's because I actually don't hit on women. I just let the women do all the chasing and let my friends do all the flirting. No matter what happens I still get the girl in the end. But I am also able to preserve my friendships with guys who are high ballers who pay for everything and have access to clubs and social circles.

I like your posts, Stormrider, although I always question when guys say that they do "nothing" to get girls. No one routinely gets girls to chase him while doing nothing - unless, like the subject suggests, his looks are doing 99% of the work. If a guy is not attractive, he can hang back and do nothing, but the girls probably won't even notice, let alone care or start to chase. But you don't say you are doing nothing, you are doing something, just not chasing or flirting apparently.

So I'm wondering what it is that you actually do? Do you ignore the girls completely? Do you initiate conversation with them? Speak only when spoken to? Wait until the end of the night and then make some sort of initiating move? Or are you saying the girls will initiate some sort of sexual escalation or throw numbers at you? Do you hang back and be quiet in a James Bond sort of way? Or do you focus on having fun with your high value male friends while ignoring the girls? Are you displaying high value in some sort of way (aside from hanging out with these rich guys)? Is your attire setting you apart in some way?

i Notice my friends don’t invite me to events when hot chicks are around.

Not surprising really. If they know you are going to bang the top girl, or possibly most of or even all of the top girls, why would they want you around? Maybe to learn from you, if they're sharp, but otherwise you're just soiling the water for them. At least you're nice enough to throw them a girl once in a while.

 

[Mike32ct]

I don’t condone envy or backstabbing ever so I fully support the OP here. No disagreement with the above.

But as a practical matter, less attractive men really shouldn’t hang out with much better looking guys when trying to meet women.

It’s ok to have a beer and hang out with your cool Chad buddy. But if you’re trying to pick up chicks, it’s an exercise in futility and frustration. It’s nobody’s fault. It’s just reality. Even the coolest Chad buddy with good intentions will likely “steal the thunder” from his less attractive buddies (even though he doesn’t mean to).

Even at the risk of “creeper-maxxing,” I would argue that the unattractive guy should lone wolf when trying to meet women. No wingman (regardless of looks) can bring him “up” and he’ll more than likely bring his wing “down.”

At best, a high SMV wing can get the less attractive guy some fake friendzone-ish “respect” from the women. They will be (fake) polite to him and reject him more gently because they don’t want to piss off Chad. But that’s typically it.

 

[zekko]

It’s ok to have a beer and hang out with your cool Chad buddy. But if you’re trying to pick up chicks, it’s an exercise in futility and frustration. It’s nobody’s fault. It’s just reality. Even the coolest Chad buddy with good intentions will likely “steal the thunder” from his less attractive buddies (even though he doesn’t mean to).

Yeah, if one guy has significantly more SMV than the others, all the girls will likely be wanting the one guy. They may resentfully "settle" for one of the other dudes out of practicality, but they'll likely have their eyes on the Chad guy all night. Not exactly a good time.

I remember RSD Owen telling a story about how he went out with some friends, they picked up three girls, and the friend's girl get hitting on Owen. Owen said this infuriated him because it was disrespecting his friend, so he threw all the girls out and they went out and got three different ones. Really, if Owen is that good at DHVing and being such an attractive male, this sort of thing should be happening to him all the time.

 

[In2theGame]

Yes I have and I didnt know about it at first but I had a few friends go behind my back and lie to girls I was talking to and tell them I was either a bad dangerous guy, a big player or they'd go as far as to tell them I had a girlfriend when I didn't. I've had friends I grew up with go behind my back and talk bad about me to a chick so that they can try to get with her. Honestly being a very good looking guy is obviously a big plus but it can also be a bad thing when it comes to some other Men and that includes close friends who will try and dog you out just to try and get the pvssy for themselves. Unfortunately you have a lot of haters out there and what you need to do is separate yourself from people like that. I have 2, ONLY 2 close friends that I can trust and have proven to me that they are truly my friends, With people overall you just need to always watch your back because if you have an easy time getting pvssy, There are a bunch of haters waiting to try and take you down whether it's guys you know or don't know.

 

[guru1000]

Most of my friends are good looking dudes, any of whom could have been male models when they were younger. When we go out, it’s a question of types. Some girls will be into them, other girls into me. No jealousy as we all have appeal to certain types.

I for example will appeal to 95% of girls from Russian speaking countries. One friend appeals strictly to Hispanics. The other to paler white American born. Another to Asians.

So no competition at all. When we go out, we all know exactly who appeals to whom.

 

[Poonani Maker]

Yes, even when there are not any chicks around or say within 300 feet, and it's usually Short guys or rail-thin guys who are worried about what everyone else thinks. Guys my height and looks don't give me any problems.

 

[Spaz]

If you guys are good looking as you say you are and genuinely a great guy, why is this a problem?

Be magnanimous and let them get some chicks however they wish it, if its saying I'm a bad guy or saying I'm a great guy props my man up, I'm all for it.

Women are so easily available, they're always on the lookout for men 24/7 so its not a big deal to attract a women for me and neither should it be for you guys.

Some of ur guys stories doesn't add up.

 

[In2theGame]

Some Guys out there are just flat out haters and will have their blood boil from watching another guy pick up Women much easier than them. It can even get to the point of violence because they feel it's unfair that they don't have that much of an easy time. A while ago I had a bouncer call me over to the corner of a bar and although he was a pretty cool guy he told me "if I looked like you, I'd be mopping the floor with pvssy" although it was a funny comment, he gave me a stare down that showed envy. Also friends not wanting you to be around the girl they are trying to talk to for fear that you'll try to take her away when in reality you have no intention of doing anything like that. For me personally, I feel it's a complete d*ck move to try and take another chick away from a friend.

I remember my best friend would invite me out with another group of friends that knew me a little bit and they had brought a small group of girls out to meet up with everyone. When I got there, I just felt the negative vibe from some of the guys that they did not want me to be there. As I started flirting with some of the girls, I overheard someone made a comment such as "Why's he here" even though i'm very cool and chilled out with everyone. I even HELPED many guys get with girls and it actually made me happy to help guys/friends out but still got hate from time to time.

I think it comes down to the inner person and how they view things. Obviously a tall, well built muscular guy with an attractive face is going to pull better just as a wealthy Man is going to have better business opportunities than someone who does not have the capital. People will hate on you because you have a better car than them, a better house, a better body, etc. It all comes down to the person and how they view themselves and it reflects on the outside.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

i Notice my friends don’t invite me to events when hot chicks are around. Recently I pulled a 9 after my buddy struck out with her and he still tried to game her even after she showed interest in me. This makes me feel uncomfortable because im not an ******* that’s going to tell my friends “you can’t bang the girls I do so stop hating” I’ve hooked my friends up with a ton of ass over the years.

I also notice a lot of my friends hate on a girl I’m dating especially if she’s really hot. It’s getting to a point where I won’t even tell my friends if I ****ed a girl or not.

Curious if any other guys deal with this? Curious if any atttactive guys have a hard time developing a social circle because of this too? Women generally aren’t friends with me. I’ll either **** a girl or she’s not interested. And even if she’s not interested I’ll pursue her in a masculine enough way to where she will still go out with me.

I can’t be the only dude that deals with this ****. Watch your back guys, most of your friends or so called “wingmen” don’t want you to succeed. Make sure your wingmen are on the same level as you

I separate pickup from the social circle. Like, I am not the pickup guy at my buddy's place with his wife. Its being cognizant of your surroundings. The same thing for work.

My boys and I get girls. Its ALL FAIR GAME. A ltr is off limits but a skank at the bar is whatever.

There's a rsd Tyler vs Julian bonus. It's them getting girls and trolling one another. Look at the dynamics. Pursue accordingly. Don't troll chode guys in social circle.

If you pull a 9 who your mate struck out, likely he's bitter. My mates and i pursued a rocker chick. My mate who plays guitar got her. Not mad. It's just chemistry. I'm more at girls in the gym, fitness trainers, yoga instructor etc. I just swing.

Get better not bitter - jb.

If friends poison drop you, next.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Some times it literally takes nothing. One time I walked in to a bar, walked over to the pool table all of a sudden someone turned me around and started making out with me. Ended up being this cute hb7 Dominican chick. There was no alcohol or booze on her breathe either and I didn't notice her when I walked in. She proceeded to tell me how bad she wanted to get smashed and suck my D. Later that night I smashed no effort, no game, barely said a word

 

[17 shots]

I don't know about jealousy, but I do at times feel like certain dudes are always trying to copy me. Like oh that worked for him so let me try that too... or oh she's giving him attention, so let me try to talk to her too, she must be ready to freak off for any guy

They don't understand that beauty is in the the eye of the beholder, and that she CHOSE me. Im like you need to find women that like how YOU look, and choose you. We are not the same, and we do not attract the same women

 

[zekko]

Some times it literally takes nothing. One time I walked in to a bar, walked over to the pool table all of a sudden someone turned me around and started making out with me.

I definitely agree this happens, but it's kind of an isolated occurrence. What I meant before was that guys don't ROUTINELY get picked up by women by doing nothing, unless his looks are doing the work. In other words, this approach isn't going to work for the average to subaverage guy. At least not consistently. The girls aren't going to care that he's "doing nothing".

I have an old friend around my age who is very tall, and was considered quite good looking when he was younger. He used to be able to walk into a bar back in the day, and it was a good bet some girl would try to pick him up. Like I said though, he was very tall, so he stood out. Now that he's older he doesn't have this same effect anymore - guess he's hit a wall of some sort.

 

[AJ84]

I definitely agree this happens, but it's kind of an isolated occurrence. What I meant before was that guys don't ROUTINELY get picked up by women by doing nothing, unless his looks are doing the work. In other words, this approach isn't going to work for the average to subaverage guy. At least not consistently. The girls aren't going to care that he's "doing nothing".

I have an old friend around my age who is very tall, and was considered quite good looking when he was younger. He used to be able to walk into a bar back in the day, and it was a good bet some girl would try to pick him up. Like I said though, he was very tall, so he stood out. Now that he's older he doesn't have this same effect anymore - guess he's hit a wall of some sort.

Yeah. I don’t get how that works either unless the guy’s attractive and looks approachable.

Actually some attractive men don’t look approachable and hence aren’t approached. I’ve noticed that in social settings, looking standoffish or indifferent, etc.

Women typically don’t do much active approaching from what I have noticed, maybe that’s changing though I don’t know.

Flirting with his friends is a common/ albeit crappy ‘indirect’ way to get his attention but if he doesn’t bite because he’s not doing anything then not sure how many women would be more assertive. Women, unlike men who approach, typically look for signs of interest. Doing nothing is hard to read.

And yeah if he’s not stand out attractive most women, like you said won’t even notice him not doing anything, because they simply won’t notice him period.

 

[zekko]

Yeah. I don’t get how that works either unless the guy’s attractive and looks approachable.

Actually some attractive men don’t look approachable and hence aren’t approached. I’ve noticed that in social settings, looking standoffish or indifferent, etc.

Yet some guys here will tell you that the more aloof and indifferent they are, the more the girls flock. I think in these "I do nothing" cases, there's some key information missing somewhere, which is why I ask questions about it. Something is drawing these women is, and it isn't simply "doing nothing", because that isn't going to work for everyone. So what is it really?

In the case where the friends are doing the flirting for him, that's interesting. So they bring in the women, maybe stoke their fires a bit with some flirting, but the other guy takes them home. Why? Is it his looks? Or is it like some PUAs talk about, where they let the other guys blow themselves out, kind of a rope-a-dope strategy?

Corey Wayne talks about going out with friends and having fun, and their fun vibe results in the girls chasing them. That sounds like you have to have fun in a certain way, like a loud, noticeable way. And if the group is a little quiet that night, does Corey Wayne say "Come on guys, we need to put on more of a show"? Sounds a bit like dancing monkeys.

 

[17 shots]

Yet some guys here will tell you that the more aloof and indifferent they are, the more the girls flock. I think in these "I do nothing" cases, there's some key information missing somewhere, which is why I ask questions about it. Something is drawing these women is, and it isn't simply "doing nothing", because that isn't going to work for everyone. So what is it really?

In the case where the friends are doing the flirting for him, that's interesting. So they bring in the women, maybe stoke their fires a bit with some flirting, but the other guy takes them home. Why? Is it his looks? Or is it like some PUAs talk about, where they let the other guys blow themselves out, kind of a rope-a-dope strategy?

Corey Wayne talks about going out with friends and having fun, and their fun vibe results in the girls chasing them. That sounds like you have to have fun in a certain way, like a loud, noticeable way. And if the group is a little quiet that night, does Corey Wayne say "Come on guys, we need to put on more of a show"? Sounds a bit like dancing monkeys.

The missing factor is alcohol. Sometimes women are just drunk and it happens like that. I was at the club once and this woman just came up and was all on me. You would of thought she was an ex of mine. Even my cousin was like do you know her? It was obvious she was wasted though

I've also had women grab me and pull me over to them as I'm walking by in the club, and then they start dancing on me. I'm pretty sure they were drunk too

This doesn't happen all the time, but it does happen

 

[AJ84]

Yet some guys here will tell you that the more aloof and indifferent they are, the more the girls flock. I think in these "I do nothing" cases, there's some key information missing somewhere, which is why I ask questions about it. Something is drawing these women is, and it isn't simply "doing nothing", because that isn't going to work for everyone. So what is it really?

In the case where the friends are doing the flirting for him, that's interesting. So they bring in the women, maybe stoke their fires a bit with some flirting, but the other guy takes them home. Why? Is it his looks? Or is it like some PUAs talk about, where they let the other guys blow themselves out, kind of a rope-a-dope strategy?

Corey Wayne talks about going out with friends and having fun, and their fun vibe results in the girls chasing them. That sounds like you have to have fun in a certain way, like a loud, noticeable way. And if the group is a little quiet that night, does Corey Wayne say "Come on guys, we need to put on more of a show"? Sounds a bit like dancing monkeys.

I suspect some of the claims here are sprinkled with a bit of bs, to be honest. Anonymous online forums are the perfect platform to cultivate a persona. Not saying that’s what is happening in this case but, based on your knowledge and experience of women and those of other members it does seem strange that women are flocking to someone simply because that person does nothing. There’s some context missing and if this is in fact true, it would be very helpful info for other men to learn this strategy. Like how attractive does one have to be, what venues/ demographic is this most likely to work on etc etc.

 

[AJ84]

The missing factor is alcohol. Sometimes women are just drunk and it happens like that. I was at the club once and this woman just came up and was all on me. You would of thought she was an ex of mine. Even my cousin was like do you know her? It was obvious she was wasted though

I've also had women grab me and pull me over to them as I'm walking by in the club, and then they start dancing on me. I'm pretty sure they were drunk too

This doesn't happen all the time, but it does happen

Yeah for sure when women are drunk they will be more assertive. I can see a drunk girl stumbling over to a random guy and pulling him on the dance floor.