"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Any of you players ever use Neil Stauss's 5 question game? It works great

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I've Used it, and its a great ice breaker in a bar approach or online chat. Here's how you Do it.

Ask the target at a bar if she wants to play a game, and If she wins you will buy her a drink. She should ask you what kind of game? Tell her all she has to do is answer 5 easy questions and get them all wrong. She should say okay let's play.

My first question would be what holiday is on 12-25? She should say something like Halloween lol. I would smile and say okay,

what colors are the American flag? She should say something like pink, black. And green lol. I would say cool lol. What is 1+1? she should say something like 37 hehe. I would say wow you're too good lol is this game too easy for you or what?

She should say yea it is why don't you step it up a notch. I would say lol i just won!!! After this she is all yours to get to know
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Might not work for everyone but seems like a really solid idea for an icebreaker.
 

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I've started developing a little more respect for Strauss lately ever since reading Emergency. He has pretty solid stuff, and he isn't as much of a glossed over wimp that he used to be. Kind of like me.
 

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Not really. If she's interested, she's going to look friendly and I'll say 'hi.' The most fail proof ice breaker I know is asking for a cigarette. If she goes away, you still got a cigarette. If she sticks around, it's almost like you're obligated to shoot the breeze with her because she did you a favor.
 

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The asking for a Cig to break the ice is basic. I think the 5 ? Game works better, because they get to interact with what seems to be a fun person, and if you start a relationship with her she will tell all her friends how she met you. It sounds a lot better than telling her friends how you walked up to her and asked her for a smoke.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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To me, this is too gimmicky, it reeks too much of being a pickup device.
Also, if she answers that the game is too easy, but in doing so she loses, that means the game really wasn't too easy for her. Which means she answered it wrong. Which means she didn't lose. Does that mean she won? Uggh.

I don't deny some guys are good with this kind of stuff though.
 

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Wait until you see the look on the face of the chick who's already been scammed this way.
 

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Johnnyventana said:
Wait until you see the look on the face of the chick who's already been scammed this way.
Yep.

This is bound to happen to you eventually. Can you say awkward?
 

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YoExGirlzN199@ said:
The asking for a Cig to break the ice is basic. I think the 5 ? Game works better, because they get to interact with what seems to be a fun person, and if you start a relationship with her she will tell all her friends how she met you. It sounds a lot better than telling her friends how you walked up to her and asked her for a smoke.
Like the other guys said, it sounds like a gimmick. This isn't how real people talk. It's how people who spend years reading PUA material talk.

I don't smoke. But I know far more people who have met over a smoke than who have met over corny pickup games.

And really, if a guy is too nervous to walk up to a girl and talk like a normal grown man, he's not gonna be confident enough to pull off some weird 5 questions game. Or pull it off and somehow still sound like a cool person.
 
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