"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Any of you guys keep getting only fat and ugly women approaching you? Answer needed!

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A man wants drop dead goregeous women approaching him, not women who look like they need to drop dead!

It usually happens to me a lot. I wear Converse (can run faster in them) in case I need to run from a creepy bytch.

But how do you guys get the hottest of women to approach you if you ain't rich?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Smack said:
You've got to approach them.
YES! Fat, ugly girls don't get approached by men, they have no choice than to make an approach themselves. Beautiful girls probably get hit on often, so why would they feel the need to do any approaches?
 

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Dannyrt34 said:
YES! Fat, ugly girls don't get approached by men, they have no choice than to make an approach themselves. Beautiful girls probably get hit on often, so why would they feel the need to do any approaches?
Ive had hot girls approach me and buy me drinks, it happens. BUT...it only happens if...get ready...youre all going to get mad and hate this...but...it happens when youre GOOD looking. Go f*ckin figure. Fat, ugly girls approach you because they think they have a shot. If youre skinny and dont give off the vibe that you wont give them the time of day they will try to game you.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Usually a fat girl comes with a posse and usually there's one attractive girl in it. This isn't always the case but when a fat girl comes you need to try to get her to a) identify her group b) scan her group for anyone who you might want to sex c) either way move her and yourself towards her group and have fun.

It's sort of a reverse social proof. By just having fun with a gaggle of fat girls (assuming there's no one you want to nail) you are demonstrating that you're not all about looks and this seems to intrigue hot women. Of course you need to inadvertently get the hotter women to see you having the time of your and chances are they'll see that your a down to earth fun guy who wants to get to know a woman.

Now if she's a skeezy ho then try to politely get away from her by being exhautively AFC or hooking her up with some other guy. Usually following her around like a lost puppy dog does the trick. Or just hop to a new spot if the dynamics suck. Do not be mean to a fat girl because somehow, I don't know how, the hotties will know.
 

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oakraiderz2 said:
Ive had hot girls approach me and buy me drinks, it happens. BUT...it only happens if...get ready...youre all going to get mad and hate this...but...it happens when youre GOOD looking. Go f*ckin figure. Fat, ugly girls approach you because they think they have a shot. If youre skinny and dont give off the vibe that you wont give them the time of day they will try to game you.
You can also be rich and get approached by hot girls, never forget that.

I've gotten lucky at times with hot girls. Sometimes I've approached, and I remember one time a girl started hitting on me while I was simply playing A Link To The Past for Gameboy Advance!

Then I've had girls who at first, wouldn't give me the time of day in a clock shop. A few months later, they allowed me to date them!

And DJDamage:

I don't know why the hell I (Or anyone else for that matter) wait to get approached. :confused: You are definitely right!

All in all, just because you attract ugly women/ fat women doesn't mean you're meant for one or the best you can do. I've seen guys who look like Mike Jones and Chamillionaire get the finest of women.
 

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Also, I'm currently dating two great girls, trying to pick one of them that's right for me. I'm no longer looking to meet more, I'll be happy with one of them since I know them both pretty well.

Now, it seems as if when I'm not looking for a girl, they seem to throw themselves at me whenever I go out. It's true that when you stop looking for girls, they come to you.

I dunno, maybe it's because I have a gigantic PP also.
 

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You probably like them to much.
8-10s wants what they cant have.

Why not approach yourself ?
 

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kingman said:
You probably like them to much.
8-10s wants what they cant have.

Why not approach yourself ?
Why not approach yourself? Huh? That's about the most pathetic advice ever!

Sometimes making yoursels elusive to 8-10s doesn't work.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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i dont even get approached by fat/ugly women, there must be something wrong with me!
 

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DJDamage said:
As the saying on sosuave goes: "don't wish the game can be easier, wish that you will be better".
How is the second option any better? You're still just sitting there with your thumb up your ass.
 

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nismo-4 said:
You can also be rich and get approached by hot girls, never forget that.
Yea, id rather not attract girls with money. Maybe some chodes would since they have no personality.
 

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Bah,

You people need dig up some good ol Pook posts.....

Work on yourself and they will "come" as Pook says....

The "above avg. women" talk to you/approach you because they see you on their level....If you work more on yourself they will stop approaching your ass and then the hotter girls will start doing the approaching....

There is a good article Pook wrote on this has been a while since I came to this site :)....Look em up....

1). Work on Yourself
2). Do your damn leg work
3). Stop complaining (at least some girls are approaching you which is something a lot of people here don't even get no offense)

-SamoJednom
 

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It's one thing to be approached by uggos, it's another to get groped by them on a regular basis which is what I have to put up with. If I walked through a club and grabbed a chicks butt I'd get tossed out or arrested, so why do they think they can get away with that?

Since I'm on the subject I get assgrabbed from HBs from time to time, but when I turn to approach they run off. It's like a form of BT overload or something. Why the frak do they do this???


Anyways, back on topic. Like others have said HBs don't approach because they don't have to. You are just going to have to learn to watch for approach invitations. That's the best you're going to get minus the random assgrab or something along those lines.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I get approached by uggos all the time but since I'm just fun I keep them around so they introduce me to their hot friends :)
 

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Well fat chicks approach because they think you're attractive but they feel you are attainable, the reason for this could be a lot of things.

If you are overweight or skinny but still attractive they may see you as 'safer' than a guy in better shape. For me that was the division between the fat girls and the hotter girls.

I remember when I was chubby, just a bit out of shape, I'd get aggressive fat girls hitting on me and making 'suggestions'. But when I got into a normal to above normal shape the fatties started hating me instead haha. Then the more attractive girls started acting 'nicer' but in a much more subtle way. Don't expect them to directly hit on you though, for most girls that's a bit too much to risk. The fatties do it because they don't have anything to lose.

The physical aspect gets down played on this forum since we know that mental is the biggest challenge but it's worth paying attention to your 'fitness'. We all know how much of a difference there is between chubby girl and slim sexy girl, well it applies to us guys as well.
 

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Guys who are having fat/ugly girls approach them should be happy. It means that you are physically attractive enough to make girls want to approach you. Believe me, getting approached by fat girls is better than not having any girls approach you. Just keep working on your look and game and the hot girls will start to notice too.

Pook's thread in the Bible talks about this subject. Though I take it with a grain of salt because he is tall and girls have always approached him.
 

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Yanky said:
The physical aspect gets down played on this forum since we know that mental is the biggest challenge but it's worth paying attention to your 'fitness'. We all know how much of a difference there is between chubby girl and slim sexy girl, well it applies to us guys as well.

Ain't that the truth! Still, I got the random assgrab when I was fit just the same as I do now that I'm fat. I don't think my fitness level affected their aggressiveness as much, but then that may be an effect of my height (5'6"ish).

I'm still doing the gym thing, but I did notice when I was working out regularly I was opened randomly by better looking women on average, even with the random uggo assgrab. Ironically I got assgrabbed about a year ago by a late teen HB 9 at a club. Granted as soon as I turned around they BT overloaded and ran off in a gigglefit.
 
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