"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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any male models here?

stayfly

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if so, how did you become a model and do you enjoy it as a career path?

holla!
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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bigjohnson

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do you honestly believe that if a guy looked like a model, he'd be on sosuave?
Nope. I had a buddy who was a 10 when I was just out of school - he was swimming in a sea of püssy. He had young püssy, 30 year old püssy, mom and her daughter püssy, sisters both after him püssy, neighbor girl püssy, music teacher püssy. I think he even had friends wife püssy and dads girlfriend püssy but he would never admit it. He had NO game, but at some level it doesn't matter - you only have 24 hours in a day after all.
 

ChapStick

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I have a few friends who are models. Most of them have no problem getting women with their looks alone. I've seen my buddy Matias around women... While he does have looks, he also displays a high level of confidence... almost borderline arrogance! So I guess you could say he has DJ attributes as well as looks.

Anyways, back to the threads topic!

Male modeling...

First you'd need to get a portfolio with your pictures, etc... Google information on how to setup a proper male modeling portfolio.

Find an agency and submit your portfolio. If they are interested, they'll get in touch with you!

By the way... Chances are even if you do make it into modeling, you will still have to keep your day job. I know guys work and model, simply because modeling doesn't pay enough (unless of course you make it big).

Good luck!
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Jariel

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I did a few shoots, but nothing mainstream. I was scouted in a mall one day (apparently very rare) to enter an eyewear modelling competition. My instinctive reaction was "What's the catch?" and "How much do you want from me?" But the women showed me the paper work and marketing literature and it was all legit - sponsored by L'Oreal and D&G among others.

I never made it past the 2nd stage and felt really awkward being photographed. But I met a girl there (also a model) who put me in touch with an agency. I managed a few decent pics, but I just wasn't comfortable with it and didn't pursue it.

Basically, if you want to get into it and believe you have the right look and the camera confidence, then you need to get a portfolio together and send it to a number of modelling agencies. But unless you go mainstream, don't expect to make a regular living from it, or even a particularly high pay packet.

Also, be careful of some vanity scams that promise to make you a model, but want money from you up front to pay for photos portfolios etc. Legitimate agencies do not ask for money up front, they take their cut from your commission.
 

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Yeah

I'm an A S S model, what do you want to know?

Has to be the oldest C+F response ever...
 

stayfly

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ChapStick said:
I have a few friends who are models. Most of them have no problem getting women with their looks alone. I've seen my buddy Matias around women... While he does have looks, he also displays a high level of confidence... almost borderline arrogance! So I guess you could say he has DJ attributes as well as looks.

Anyways, back to the threads topic!

Male modeling...

First you'd need to get a portfolio with your pictures, etc... Google information on how to setup a proper male modeling portfolio.

Find an agency and submit your portfolio. If they are interested, they'll get in touch with you!

By the way... Chances are even if you do make it into modeling, you will still have to keep your day job. I know guys work and model, simply because modeling doesn't pay enough (unless of course you make it big).

Good luck!
Jariel said:
I did a few shoots, but nothing mainstream. I was scouted in a mall one day (apparently very rare) to enter an eyewear modelling competition. My instinctive reaction was "What's the catch?" and "How much do you want from me?" But the women showed me the paper work and marketing literature and it was all legit - sponsored by L'Oreal and D&G among others.

I never made it past the 2nd stage and felt really awkward being photographed. But I met a girl there (also a model) who put me in touch with an agency. I managed a few decent pics, but I just wasn't comfortable with it and didn't pursue it.

Basically, if you want to get into it and believe you have the right look and the camera confidence, then you need to get a portfolio together and send it to a number of modelling agencies. But unless you go mainstream, don't expect to make a regular living from it, or even a particularly high pay packet.

Also, be careful of some vanity scams that promise to make you a model, but want money from you up front to pay for photos portfolios etc. Legitimate agencies do not ask for money up front, they take their cut from your commission.
thanks for the advice guys!!

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Lets not let the looks debate start again. I am leaving that ^ up. an extremely well written argument and in my opinion should be all that needs to be said on the issue of looks.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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theres actually alot of goodlooking guys on here.. they get so much bush they want some forum to work out all the ***** they get
 

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I used to but it's too time consuming. Jariel, personally I don't find it's that rare at the mall (live in Toronto). The biggest problem is without a doubt the portfolio. Stayfly I had around 50 quality shots and it should be ever increasing. Overall that's a LOT of pictures when you consider all of them won't be what you're looking for. And they were really strict about weight (they were really hesitant about letting me bulk.) Also getting a good agent at a good agency is not easy and open calls are pretty bad too. Oh and make sure you like interviews. If you have anything specific to ask you can PM me.
 
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