"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Any advice on this one guys?

MurdocIsGod

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So this girl I know... She knows I'm interested in her (yeah lol) but she has a boyfriend. She likes him and I know she wouldn't leave him for me. Thing is however, I asked her to come out with me one on one, I said to her we'll see if anything develops between us... And she agreed to it and wants to go with me?

She'll pay for herself so it's not for the free stuff, but she knows my motives for hanging out with her, and claims to not be interested due to being in a relationship (though apparently I heard she still wouldn't be interested if she wasn't taken), so why is she doing this?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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oneboy21

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Why do you want to pursue a girl who is in a relationship with some guy?
You will be having more chances with a girl who is single. She told you she will be talking to you one on one when she is in relationship with some guy, what if she does the same thing to you?
 

ARrocket

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Escalate, isolate, escalate. Probably not relationship material, but if you wanna hit it and quit it, you have to plow through and isolate her.
 

thevilittletroll

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it could mean a number of different things. its your job to figure it out. i'll give you a few scenarios: she might just want to be friends with you cause your a cool guy. maybe she wants to hang out with you for validation. if she knows that you like her, it makes her feel good to know that there are other guys out there she can have at anytime if she breaks up with her man.

also keep in mind that if played right girls with bf's can sometime be the best f-buddys, cause they keep their mouths shut, and most of the time you dont have to take them out on dates. they usually just come over for the banging and then leave. i have a friend that this was his fortay, he was masterful.

with that being said, you will have to play it off like you dont care that she has a bf, and you are still going to try and get in her pants. take the advice from previous post, escalate, escalate, escalate. dont bring up her bf, you dont want her thinking about him. try to avoid the subject at all costs. if it does come up, put him up on a pedastal that he cant possibly messure up to. just describe what a typical afc would do when obsessing over a girl. ex: i bet your bf buys you flowers everyday, worships the ground you walk on, gives you foot massages everyday, does your laundry, takes you to expensive restaraunts...crap like that. then you say something like, i'd do the complete opposite but then "F" your brains out and make you c.u.m like you've never c.u.m before! then immediately change the subject. i promise you she will want to continue with the sexual conversation. keep changing the subject, she will keep coming back to it to keep it sexual. at this point, you'll realize she's chasing you. thats when you take her out to your car and bang her
 

pdx1138

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you might be setting yourself up for eventual misery.

my advice is to find single women.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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