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Anxiety at the time of intercourse, how to cope?

BorisBeef

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Good afternoon gentlemen, first of all thank you for allowing me to enter the forum, this is my first article, I subscribed yesterday.
I have been wandering aimlessly, I have known this forum through a book called "The rational man" and the truth that has arrived
into my hands at a key moment in my life, but let me summarize my case as briefly as possible, I look forward to
advice from experienced men, who could emulate the father figure I never had.
I have very little or almost no sexual experience with women, this is the obstacle. The objective, to be able to improve and advance in possible
suitors. At 23 years on the way to 24, I lost my virginity a year and a half ago. I simply set out to lose her because I have evaded
of that thought, and like all bad things, the longer we postpone, the worse its impact. I started communicating with women
around me, (even though I'm a lousy social animal, I'm getting better every day) I supplemented with online dating, and I came to
maintain a relationship with two different women, for my taste they were below average on the beauty scale, but with
In order to get rid of my anxiety, I continued with the protocol. I learned that I am an AFC. I had a premature ejaculation my first time, but
I kept giving other rounds despite having finished quickly. The girl I was with, which I must say that she was very kind and affectionate
she was patient and taught me several basic things, that was my goal, to understand the dynamics and behaviors in intimacy.
I've been with her on 3 time, and each sex was better than the last. She did not believe that I was a virgin, and she was very satisfied
Which greatly increased my self-esteem. But then I discarded her because her anxiety episodes were constant and she really wanted to be in my life in a fundamental way.

Specifications:
I am of average height, I am not very handsome, but people often praise me for my attractiveness, I have always dressed well, I have several tattoos.
I take care of my health, I have a diet that I follow strictly, with macro counting and weight training 3 times a week. I usually pass
most of the time alone, reading various topics, biology, philosophy, science and psychology (although to tell the truth I am quite ignorant because I have no studies) or learning new skills, lately I have improved my culinary skills a lot.

Economic situation:
I used to work in a company dedicated to meat, I was a butcher who separated the cuts from the cows. I have started working from a very young age, I have had many jobs, from construction to supermarket cashier. I come from a broken and poor family, with no father present.
During the night and my free time I used to be an Uber driver for a contact, then I bought a motorcycle with which I delivered food in my free time.
I have taken off work because my stress is negatively affecting my life, that is, at work I could not perform my tasks due to fatigue. Right now I am correcting several aspects, so I said:
Well it's time to fix some things, I'm going to cut costs and change the deck of cards again.
I currently live alone, in a small apartment in a marginal area.

Hobbies:
I don't have many nowadays, when I was young I practiced martial arts, boxing, Muay Thai. Lately I go out to drink a coffee on weekends but no more, I haven't gone out to discos for years.

Social aspect:
Since I've been aware, I haven't had problems socializing, in adolescence I had many suitors, and I had no problem talking to anyone, but it's getting worse every time.
I tried to go to therapy, but my psychologist was very attractive and I couldn't help but show sexual interest in her, the situation became highly tense and then I left.

Current case:
I am not dating, nor throwing myself at women that I find attractive, I always had a lot of control, but since I am on the street a lot, due to my work, I can appreciate the behavior of many women I come across, they usually give me the OK and try to get closer themselves, I maintain control but I am aware that I am not what they think I am,
I have always been told that I look like a criminal, but it is the opposite, they are vestiges of what I have been going through my disgusting life. The girl I was with told me
That she was afraid the minutes before sex, because she saw me as someone with a lot of sexual and life experience, (which was the complete opposite in the act) I laughed because they had told me before.

There are several women I like, but this sick loop is contaminating my mood. There is an older woman, who I believe is between 30 and 36 years old, who owns a grocery store.
I'm not very smart, but I can see her interest in me every time I go to buy cigarettes, and the **** tests she does every time she sees me. HELP.
Forgive me, I've written too much, but believe me I don't have anyone else to talk to, it's not that I'm depressed, although I went through a very dark stage a few years ago. I continue in search of my improvement and be able to cope with this
what we call life

Thank you very much for reading.
 

Billtx49

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The one main thing that stood out for me in your post:
Specifications:
“I am of average height, I am not very handsome, but people often praise me for my attractiveness,”

Low self esteem here regarding your looks. If others say it, you believe it, have the confidence that comes from it, and carry yourself like the good looking man you are. True handsomeness comes from men who internally know they are …

Regarding the sex anxiety, it’s like fighting the fear of riding a new bike, do it enough times, you get to ride it all over town and earn pro status…
Good luck on your life’s journey.
 

Stanley

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You gotta work on your self esteem and value yourself more.

Men that are often told they are very handsome tend to be attractive. Being told you have had lots of sexual partners indicates that a woman sees you as capable of having many partners, that is not a bad thing, in fact i'd argue it is good. You are fortunate to have found a girl that was willing to show you the ropes, I was a late bloomer in that regard and was thankful for that experience. The more you do it, the less you'll get in your head about it. I think of it like a sport at this point and I used to be terrified of sex due to trauma and low self esteem.

Also, do not feel ashamed for writing and venting this out. There are people here who are willing to help you and I came to this board under the same pretense of self improvement.

What are your goals? What are looking to get out of this board? What advice are you looking to get?

And welcome
 

BorisBeef

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You gotta work on your self esteem and value yourself more.

Men that are often told they are very handsome tend to be attractive. Being told you have had lots of sexual partners indicates that a woman sees you as capable of having many partners, that is not a bad thing, in fact i'd argue it is good. You are fortunate to have found a girl that was willing to show you the ropes, I was a late bloomer in that regard and was thankful for that experience. The more you do it, the less you'll get in your head about it. I think of it like a sport at this point and I used to be terrified of sex due to trauma and low self esteem.

Also, do not feel ashamed for writing and venting this out. There are people here who are willing to help you and I came to this board under the same pretense of self improvement.

What are your goals? What are looking to get out of this board? What advice are you looking to get?

And welcome
I would like to know why things could start to improve, but deep down I think I am aware of what I have to do.
What I'm really looking for is advice on how they would take action in my situation.
There are many attractive women in my life that I would like to court, but due to lack of experience I am blocked.
Introspection and reflection I think led me to sign up for this app, read about the manosphere, and try to make a change.
What is it that I would like? Well, it is a complex topic and very difficult to summarize, but first I would like to know what level to reach with strangers.
The reality is that it is a good question that you asked me, right now I am thinking how I got to all this LOL
 

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I would like to know why things could start to improve, but deep down I think I am aware of what I have to do.
What I'm really looking for is advice on how they would take action in my situation.
There are many attractive women in my life that I would like to court, but due to lack of experience I am blocked.
Introspection and reflection I think led me to sign up for this app, read about the manosphere, and try to make a change.
What is it that I would like? Well, it is a complex topic and very difficult to summarize, but first I would like to know what level to reach with strangers.
The reality is that it is a good question that you asked me, right now I am thinking how I got to all this LOL
Dude, that's good that you're thinking of these things and I hope you get something out of the board. Self reflection and acknowledgement is the beginning phases of growth and change. Also, do not allow 'inexperience' to be your crutch, that is your own self limiting belief you've imposed on yourself. Allow your experiences with this last girl be evidence to having an 'inaccurate' self perception. She thought you were a well experienced and likely a 'player'? When I lost my virginity the girl guessed how many women I had been with and it was well into the double digits lol. Use her assumptions and perception of you to adjust your mental schema and self image to something more accurate to what you appear as.

Something maybe to give a try:

Try taking inventory of your insecurities and write them out, then combat them. You think you are 'unattractive' then brainstorm all the times in your life you've been told otherwise, combat your confirmation bias and negative feedback loop. This is essentially the basis of cognitive behavioral therapy. Also, journaling, be aware of your thoughts and come back and reflect on them. You will hopeful gain clarity and a better understanding of yourself and where you want to go in life. You will also (with effort) notice cognitive distortions and misallined thinking which are likely to negatively affect you. Also...

Do not base your value on the amount of women you've slept with.


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Some reading recommendations if you are interested
A great place to start is Pook. (free)


A book on self esteem and people pleasing behavior worth checking out is No More Mr. Nice Guy by Dr. Robert Glover


An old classic and the og 'self help' book focusing on self image worth looking at is Psycho Cybernetics

 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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In a nutshell. Focus on you. Don't worry about pleasing her before yourself.
I sounds azz backwards bit its true.
Be selfish in the bedroom and your inner animal will come out.
Anxiety is often created in this context by "trying" to be her best lover.
Show her right on her face
When you are a "glas is half full "type of person, both coming too quick AND lasting too long are a good things!

The former means she is just too damn attractive and you need to "get used " to her attractiveness. The latter means you are a stallion and a bj afterwards is a proper reward for blowing her back out.

I said the same in a recent thread: now porn desensitized us, we men must take foreplay way more serious than ever before. It's not just for women anymore! Foreplay isn't just touching her and kissing her neck ect, foreplay is everything that happens before hitting it. Simply having a conversation and looking in her eyes a certain way can be foreplay. Let her rub your D slowly , grind on you ect.

Actually busting a nut is the destination, the build up towards the climax is the journey. It's the journey that matters. Both you and her can make yourself come in a minute. Alternatively to penetration you could suck her t1tty and talk dirty to her while you put her hand on her poosy so she can make herself come under your "guidance ". Still a intimate moment you two share.

Last tip is too jerk less, and start eating and living healthy.
 
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OP,

Your post was way too long to read. Try to shorten them up. You'll get more responses. You seem like a guy that gets in his own head a lot just based on your need to provide so much detail.

But this comes up (no pun intended) every so often on this board. Pop 10-20 mg sildenafil (Viagra) about 45-60 minutes before the deed and never focus on just one woman (oneitis).

Problem solved.

Ciao,
Dash
 

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If a guy can't last and have stamina hes not going to please anyone. If I were OP I would work on that
Ofcourse you're right, I just think its important to have a alternative bag of tricks at your disposal.

These erectile dysfunction threads are becoming a common theme.
 

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I have given up alcohol a year ago, I have never been a frequent drinker.
What works against me I think is tobacco, I'm a smoker, but that's not the only thing behind the discomfort, I think stress is ****ing ****.
I can't say I have ED, I really don't know, having not been with a woman in several months, I can't confirm.
What if I'm not feeling like masturbating, I should get a medical checkup. It could be low libido.
 
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