"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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anticipation of a 'i dont know what im doing yet on (day) call/msg me on the day'

drift king

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following on from my other thread i have to make a call to some girl i picked up, it's hard to say how well i did IL wise but assuming it went ok she might still give me the line of 'i dont know what im doing yet on monday/tuesday give me a call/text on that day'

my response to that should not be 'ok' i usually get into trouble with conversations which go down this route so this time i want to do it right.. what should be the best response?

i was thinking 'well you need to let me know by tomorrow 4pm otherwise i'll make other plans and will be busy and wont have time for you..'

should i go for something differently? too many girls give me this answer. some aren't interested, some play hard to get, some are testing me i try not to read too much into it or take it too seriously but i always end up looking desperate needing confirmation of time. it usually will end in 'when i have free time i'll let you know..' but they never do. im thinking of saying 'nah its cool i'll be busy then. see ya' will this still come across desperate because i am unwilling to wait for her to give me a message to say when shes free?

i know i should not try to force the issue like i usually do so i want to make sure i do it differently this time. if she gives me any friction just say 'cool we'll talk again soon and try to set something up' but then not call for at least a week to see if she gets back to me.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I never had a response like that. If I did, I'd think it was disrespectful and assume the girl thinks I didn't have anything better to do than to leave a day open like that to see if there's a chance she may be available.

If i get a response like that, I'd tell her I really want to hang out with her but need some advance notice. If she doesn't budge a little, then playing hard to get or not, she's not worth my time. That's not the kind of girl I want in my life.
 

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its annoying cos these girls do this to test you or just aren't that interested and want to see what else better they have on first.. sometimes they're just busy with studying or whatever.. these girls want their cake and eat it.. so if they have nothing else better on then they'll see you.

i dont know how to respond to these girls except to make sure im not available when they call. i need a fool proof response to get a time confirmation without seeming really desperate to meet up.

there must be a counter response for something like this?
 

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If she was really digging you, you would get a counter-offer. Drop them like hot bricks when they do this **** to you. There isn't really any way to 'deal' with it other than playing it ****y: 'You don't know what you're doing? Well, you do now.'
 

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drift king said:
'i dont know what im doing yet on monday/tuesday give me a call/text on that day'
Tell her: "No deal"

and wait on the spot for a better offer, if you don't get one say "ok cya around" and start walking away.

If they chase you with a better deal - great.

If they don't - NEXT!!

Compromising early on with women you haven't even fvcked yet is a waste of time.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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DJDamage said:
Tell her: "No deal"

and wait on the spot for a better offer, if you don't get one say "ok cya around" and start walking away.

If they chase you with a better deal - great.

If they don't - NEXT!!

Compromising early on with women you haven't even fvcked yet is a waste of time.
would i not come across as too desperate to meet by not accepting or being relaxed about waiting for her message when shes free?

i remember someone told me on here to accept it and be cool, if she doesn't message u than next her. what would she think if she tries to tell me she'll let me know when she's free and i say 'no deal' will she think im being too pushy or acting like a man?
 

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drift king said:
would i not come across as too desperate to meet by not accepting or being relaxed about waiting for her message when shes free?
No you come across as a guy who won't put up or have time to stand for her bullsh1t. Being desperate is agreeing to jump through a woman's sh1t tests when she lays that line on you. When a woman says that line to you she is basically saying " I don't really have plans that day but I might and you are therefore a second banana in case I won't have anything better to do, that's why I am not sayin yes now".

drift king said:
. what would she think if she tries to tell me she'll let me know when she's free and i say 'no deal' will she think im being too pushy or acting like a man?
She will think "damn he doesn't believe my bullsh1t"

You even said it yourself:

drift king said:
many girls give me this answer. some aren't interested, some play hard to get, some are testing me i try not to read too much into it or take it too seriously but i always end up looking desperate needing confirmation of time?
and that's why its bullsh1t. Instead of telling you straight up that they "aren't interested" they give you hope and waste your fvcking time.

Cut through the bullsh1t by not agreeing to their deals that always blow up in your face.
 
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