"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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anticipation of a 'i dont know what im doing yet on (day) call/msg me on the day'

drift king

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following on from my other thread i have to make a call to some girl i picked up, it's hard to say how well i did IL wise but assuming it went ok she might still give me the line of 'i dont know what im doing yet on monday/tuesday give me a call/text on that day'

my response to that should not be 'ok' i usually get into trouble with conversations which go down this route so this time i want to do it right.. what should be the best response?

i was thinking 'well you need to let me know by tomorrow 4pm otherwise i'll make other plans and will be busy and wont have time for you..'

should i go for something differently? too many girls give me this answer. some aren't interested, some play hard to get, some are testing me i try not to read too much into it or take it too seriously but i always end up looking desperate needing confirmation of time. it usually will end in 'when i have free time i'll let you know..' but they never do. im thinking of saying 'nah its cool i'll be busy then. see ya' will this still come across desperate because i am unwilling to wait for her to give me a message to say when shes free?

i know i should not try to force the issue like i usually do so i want to make sure i do it differently this time. if she gives me any friction just say 'cool we'll talk again soon and try to set something up' but then not call for at least a week to see if she gets back to me.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I never had a response like that. If I did, I'd think it was disrespectful and assume the girl thinks I didn't have anything better to do than to leave a day open like that to see if there's a chance she may be available.

If i get a response like that, I'd tell her I really want to hang out with her but need some advance notice. If she doesn't budge a little, then playing hard to get or not, she's not worth my time. That's not the kind of girl I want in my life.
 

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its annoying cos these girls do this to test you or just aren't that interested and want to see what else better they have on first.. sometimes they're just busy with studying or whatever.. these girls want their cake and eat it.. so if they have nothing else better on then they'll see you.

i dont know how to respond to these girls except to make sure im not available when they call. i need a fool proof response to get a time confirmation without seeming really desperate to meet up.

there must be a counter response for something like this?
 

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If she was really digging you, you would get a counter-offer. Drop them like hot bricks when they do this **** to you. There isn't really any way to 'deal' with it other than playing it ****y: 'You don't know what you're doing? Well, you do now.'
 

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drift king said:
'i dont know what im doing yet on monday/tuesday give me a call/text on that day'
Tell her: "No deal"

and wait on the spot for a better offer, if you don't get one say "ok cya around" and start walking away.

If they chase you with a better deal - great.

If they don't - NEXT!!

Compromising early on with women you haven't even fvcked yet is a waste of time.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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DJDamage said:
Tell her: "No deal"

and wait on the spot for a better offer, if you don't get one say "ok cya around" and start walking away.

If they chase you with a better deal - great.

If they don't - NEXT!!

Compromising early on with women you haven't even fvcked yet is a waste of time.
would i not come across as too desperate to meet by not accepting or being relaxed about waiting for her message when shes free?

i remember someone told me on here to accept it and be cool, if she doesn't message u than next her. what would she think if she tries to tell me she'll let me know when she's free and i say 'no deal' will she think im being too pushy or acting like a man?
 

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drift king said:
would i not come across as too desperate to meet by not accepting or being relaxed about waiting for her message when shes free?
No you come across as a guy who won't put up or have time to stand for her bullsh1t. Being desperate is agreeing to jump through a woman's sh1t tests when she lays that line on you. When a woman says that line to you she is basically saying " I don't really have plans that day but I might and you are therefore a second banana in case I won't have anything better to do, that's why I am not sayin yes now".

drift king said:
. what would she think if she tries to tell me she'll let me know when she's free and i say 'no deal' will she think im being too pushy or acting like a man?
She will think "damn he doesn't believe my bullsh1t"

You even said it yourself:

drift king said:
many girls give me this answer. some aren't interested, some play hard to get, some are testing me i try not to read too much into it or take it too seriously but i always end up looking desperate needing confirmation of time?
and that's why its bullsh1t. Instead of telling you straight up that they "aren't interested" they give you hope and waste your fvcking time.

Cut through the bullsh1t by not agreeing to their deals that always blow up in your face.
 
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