"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Am I the only one who thinks this should be the main part of the DJ bible?
It's really, really truthful and enlightening.

I truly do believe that a lot of men here have it wrong when it comes to truly being an alpha.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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If you can get a general consensus on this, I'll move it to the main page...

IMO, it's too valuable to remove it, but a bit too archaic to make it a 'must read'
 

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Well, the thing is that it covers a lot of things that have happened to almost EVERY young DJ.

I read through here and I see kids talking about being dumped and led on...

I simply believe that those posts cover things and change your perspective to the correct perspective whilst being straight forward about things that we all need to understand that most posts are very cryptic about.

Honestly, I'm starting to believe that this website isn't even useful. It's a website created to teach us how to seduce women... but the true art of seduction is in not trying at all. I mean, wouldn't you agree?

You probably SHOULD just next a girl if she's not interested immediately.

In my opinion, the strategy talked about in those posts, if slightly altered to fit your taste, is the perfect strategy simply because it literally involves no strategy whatsoever.
 

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I agree that anti-dump's machine deserves a spot in the bible. However, I disagree with the belief that this site is about seducing girls. That's PUA and this is not PUA. This site is about helping guys evolve into men; part of that is knowing how to interact with women, whether initially or long term. Also keep in mind that everyone is different, circumstances are different, timing matters, etc. so not everything should be taken verbatim -- tweaking ideas is important.
 

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Anti-Dump is what I ran in HS and after graduation. I'd say it's a must for beginners as it allows you to familiarize yourself with women. After awhile you start to learn how they tick, more importantly, how woman who are INTERESTED tick. Flirting, seducing, and banging became so much easier. A large part of my game is an off shoot of AD, but it works for me.

Here's one of my post back from 2010. It's a bit ****y, but this is how it was.

I run anti-dump, a long with a spice of my own game. So my ratio is pretty high.

Meaning, I only approach girls I know are already attracted, and I'm very intuitive about picking up on IOIs.

Eye contact. Trying to always be in close proximity. Laughs at everything I say. Shuts up whenever I speak. Will talk loudly in order to get my attention etc..

Don't ever cold approach too much anymore. To much BS, and when I do, the girl has usually already given me an IOI or I don't even bother. Creeper game's not my thing.
This was my mindset 2 years ago, and not much has changed.

-Scars
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I'm a firm fan of Anti-Dump's Machine.
 

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Ive never read AD's machine, reading snippets now, anyone got a link? to the full thing?

tis ok, I got it
 

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Every SS member should read AD's Machine. It answered my question on cold approaches. Women get approached all the time, show her that you are not just creeper #38; Wait until she shows that she is interested in you. This method takes practice to catch all the IOI's, but when you get it down, you really look like you are amazing with women when you are on the outside looking in.
 

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I have it copied to word on my pc, but it should have its own section in the bible IMO. To me, it shows the mentality of a true DJ although I don't fully agree with everything there, its definitely bible-worthy.
 

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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Thanks OP for reminding me of this informational masterpiece.

I remember trying to read it back in the day but I don't think I was quite ready for it.

Now I am starting to see the essence inside it. It's got plenty of Gold in there, that's for sure.
 

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Should definitely be in the bible. One of the best collection of posts out there. Weeding out unsuitable girls and finding one that will stick. Great read!
 

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I knew it could be debatable when I put Anti-Dump's Machine on the page of 'extras', but I figured I'd take a chance on it. Nevertheless, it seems many of you still swear by it. I've moved it onto the main page near the bottom.
 

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Looking for women with high interest isn't just for finding "the one". You can use the same strategy for a woman you just want for one night, short-term relationships, long-term relationships,etc. etc.
 

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i just finished reading anti dumps machine and I felt that it was an amazing read written by two great writers, pook and anti dump, both their ideas shared in 10 great posts. Honestly amazing.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Thank you Desdinova, when I saw the bible 2.0 I was shocked that AD's content was slated to "extras" since a good 90% (my stats) of the questions asked on this site can be guided by the wisdom imparted by AD. Sure, not all of his posts can be applied to everyone's situation, however, the women that brought me here to this site displayed all these traits. Personally, I have referenced Pook's book as well as the machine when I am feeling low in my game or have a question and concern about my dealings with women. What I find fantastic about the machine is that it's a great starting point for one changing his mindset from a vetted no nonsense perspective. At the end of the day though, it is up to the individual to partake in their own quest to be a better person and achieve their goals, without this board. YMMV. Live long and prosper.:rockon:
 

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I've said this at least 5 zillion times ont his forum; if you actually stubbornly made yourself apply Anti-Dump's machine and didn't ask questions and just did what he lays out and stopped trying to out think the machine it will cure about 90% of all your problems with the opposite sex.. it is single handily the most important post on this forum, by an extremely wide margin.

even **** that you don't know you are solving you are solving. how to deal with flakes, how to get women women interested in having sex really quickly, how to get women to commit to you and actually wanna stay committed to you


and the REAL beauty of it all is that it works in every possible situation. I found fvck buddies, I found dates, **** i found my wife all with Anti Dump Machine. i did not alter a single thing in it for any girl. you run all girls through the process and when they come out, they will tell you what they are, and you treat them accordingly.


I believe in Anti Dump machine so much it's the premise behind how I run my web design business. I will only deal with 3 clients at a time. no more. My thinking behind that is I want the three best clients i can have at any point in time i don't want 3 good clients and 2 ****ty clients, the time i am spending trying to make a ****ty client happy is better spent finding someone who can replace one of the three when we are done with their job.

anyway, the **** works. don't over think it. don't ask questions. just do what it says. you might not get instant results in fact i know you won't, but you will get there. within a few months you will be looking at a chick and she will be giving you IOI's and isntead of you saying "i wish i could ask her for her number" you will be saying "damn.. i guess i will give her a shot to top one of my plates, see what she can do". women get off on the later.
 

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^^ I could swear I've read your last ever post already bb! Back for good?
 

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Purefilth said:
^^ I could swear I've read your last ever post already bb! Back for good?
I'm thinking the same thing. I just wrote a few paragraphs questioning this but it's not worth it. Make a stand one way or the other for credibility's sake.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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