"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Another (yawn) date

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So went out with hot but mid thirties new girl yesterday. The most exciting part of the date was taking the bus there and getting the number of a hot Eastern European girl who was giving me mad IOIs. Hope to see her again.

The actual date itself was just a repetition of so many other dates. We go out, girl sits there drinking ****tails I'M paying for, expecting me to make all the conversation and not being enthusiastic about any subject that doesn't involve Justin Timberlake or some other as*hole flavor of the month celebrity.

There will be a bunch of guys who will come out with the usual rhetoric about how if a date is boring it is the guy's fault, you have to make it interesting, etc, etc. But that's not easy when you're out with a plank of wood. The girls I'll go on dates with are pretty but the sheer vacuousness of 95% of them is staggering to me. What goes on in these girls' heads? What do they think about when they're not with some guy trying to screw them? Do they read? Have independent thoughts, etc? I'm not even that convinced that the majority of them would qualify as sentient life forms.

Anyway have pretty much come to expect this now. The only thing I hope to get from these girls is between their legs. Certainly not expecting anything to come from their ditzy brains.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Play the date on your rules e.g. when you walk into the pub, tell her to get the first round of drinks in as you need to go to the toilet - pint of Heineken please!

And perhaps you need to figure out why you're interested in 'planks of wood'.. maybe you should reflect on your own 'date selecting'-skills.
 

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Yo Mama, if you check out my recent posting history you'll see I understand exactly where you're coming from.

I think there has been a general dumbing down of women in the last decade, and it hasn't even peaked yet. They have no incentive to better themselves, not while they have things so easy. And yes, the scale and reach of this dumbing down beggars belief; I know it's going on, I know why it's happening, but I'm still constantly appalled, you'd think I'd be used to it.

There was a guy on here about a year ago, reasonably bright spark, confessed to taking Klonopin to take the edge off the disgust he felt for his dates. I wouldn't do it, but I understood why he needed to.

Sh!t, I've walked out of dates after 15 minutes of the kind of punishment you've described, it just really adds nothing I need in my life. I've followed through in the past, and I wish I could say the pvssy was worth all those facepalms I repressed, but it wasn't!
 

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Naw dogs, its not that women are being "dumbed down" in the last decade, the truth that the PC feminist social thought police try to hide from us is that women ARE dumber than men. Its a scientific fact.

You look into the research, I'm not making this up because I'm a "misogynist" (which is what I get called whenever I state this FACT on any other forum). Its a consensus opinion amongst the people who study intelligence. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-405056/Men-intelligent-women-claims-new-study.html
 

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Not just dumbing down of women - PEOPLE in general are stupid. I cant relate to most guys because I don't like to talk about any sports besides baseball.

The only solution I see is to increase your sample size and go on more dates.

Naw dogs, its not that women are being "dumbed down" in the last decade, the truth that the PC feminist social thought police try to hide from us is that women ARE dumber than men. Its a scientific fact.

You look into the research, I'm not making this up because I'm a "misogynist" (which is what I get called whenever I state this FACT on any other forum). Its a consensus opinion amongst the people who study intelligence. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...new-study.html
Here's your typical example of a man who is an uninformed, Grade A moron. He makes a grand conclusion by citing one study done by a discredited racist crackpot.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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This is why I prefer women with science & engineering degrees (who actually use them.) At least then they tend to always have something interesting to talk about.

Word of warning: never date a chick who studied "political science". They're even more full of **** than normal and that doesn't count as a science anyway.
 

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Thanks for the replies guys. Good to know i'm not alone.

As for my date selecting skills, I would really rather be dating hot women who are capable of stimulating conversation but they're not that easy to find.

Went on another date today. More of the same. The most interesting part was when she told me she was married in the middle of heavy making out. I honestly had no idea.

Saw the perfect looking woman for me on the train on the way home (mixed/Spanish looking). Just gorgeous. Was hoping for some eye contact or a smile to give me an in, but there was nothing.

All in the game I suppose.
 

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Serg897 said:
Here's your typical example of a man who is an uninformed, Grade A moron. He makes a grand conclusion by citing one study done by a discredited racist crackpot.
Hahahahaha

I got an I.Q. of almost 140 and this guy is calling me a "Grade A moron"... oh the irony.

Its the internet, dude~ I'm not going to to an exhaustive academic research paper just for a post on a forum. Its like those ppl who get cut when you link to Wikipedia. I just put that link there for a bit of casual reading. I haven't "made a grand conclusion by citing one study", I've actually done a lot of in depth research on the topic myself, because it interests me.

And the author is a highly respected University Professor, not a "discredited racist crackpot". I always hate it when sensitive left wing d!ckheads try to discredit and ad hom people who are trying to tell the TRUTH, just because that truth happens to be un-Politically Correct.
 

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OP you bring up a good point that many here fail to bring up.

They think whenever something goes wrong, it's the dude's fault.

sometimes the girl is just an airhead with a ****ty personality. it happens
 

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Btw, I'm not making it up or basing it on one guy's opinion that men are more intelligent than women, its the only consensus position that can logically be drawn from the data.

Here's another link: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...ist/200901/why-men-are-more-intelligent-women

The orthodoxy in intelligence research for the second half of the 20th century had been that men and women had the same average intelligence, but men had greater variance in their distribution than women. Most geniuses were men, and most imbeciles were men, they said, while most women were in the normal range. This conclusion, however, was manufactured out of political expediency. Not wanting to discover, or a priori denying, any sex differences in intelligence, psychometricians simply deleted from the standardized IQ tests any item on which the performance of men and women differed.

More recently, however, especially since the turn of the millennium, there have been an increasing number of studies that cast doubt on this politically correct conclusion. Studies with large representative national samples from Spain, Denmark, and the United States, as well as meta-analyses of a large number of published studies throughout the world, all conclude that men on average are slightly but significantly more intelligent than women, by about 3-5 IQ points. So this has now become the new (albeit tentative) consensus in intelligence research.
They don't publicise this manifest fact because of the howls of shaming from feminists and white-knighting from douche-bags like Serg897 that would inevitably ensue if they did, but nevertheless, the data don't lie.

Ultimately, in order to avoid the Politically Incorrect yet obvious conclusion from the data, even the author in this article I linked concludes by saying its not really that men are smarter than women, its that men are taller than women, and that tall people are smarter than short people, and so that's way it seems like men are smarter than women.

Well, I'm 6'4 so no skin off my nose whatever way you wanna look at it, but nevertheless I Call Bull$hit.

By the way, I resent Serg897 playing the racist card. There are differences between races, I'm sorry but there just straight are. For one example, black men are better athletes. For sure they make better basketballers and running backs. Its not racist for me to say that. So why would it be racist for me to say that white men make better Chess players? I'm not saying that, I don't know if that's true, I haven't looked at any studies to prove it, but if it was the case objectively, would it be racist of me to say so here?
 
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Well "consensus" isn't exactly the most robust form of argument, so you get a -1 for that....

But, yeah, there's plenty of valid research in many areas going unacknowledged, or simply buried because it doesn't suit a "progressive" agenda. The relentless pursuit of "equality" for "victims" through "positive" rights is having an enormously detrimental effect throughout the anglosphere.

But we should probably get back OT.
 

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Yo'Mama said:
out with a plank of wood.

lol. its true man, there are just some girls that are soooo fVcking boring, no amount of skill on your part is going to change that, and why should you? I don't want to be with a girl that has the personality of a wet sock.

I've met girls with incredible personalities, never a dull moment, and i've met girls that i'm not even sure if they were alive.

Most are somewhere in between.
 

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Zerro said:
This is why I prefer women with science & engineering degrees (who actually use them.) At least then they tend to always have something interesting to talk about.

Word of warning: never date a chick who studied "political science". They're even more full of **** than normal and that doesn't count as a science anyway.
Oh isn't that the truth. I swear to God, based on the female profiles I get to see there's more women studying or practicing psych/social work/youth work than there are troubled youths to actually counsel, bwahahaha. They're completely dysfunctional themselves mind you, zero capacity for dealing with reality, but good zealots for whatever part of the government apparatus they occupy.

Pharmacists on the other hand, man have I had some great times with female pharmacists.
 

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Zerro said:
Word of warning: never date a chick who studied "political science". They're even more full of **** than normal and that doesn't count as a science anyway.
quoted for truth
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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I don't think men are genetically more intelligent, but I do believe women are under motivated leading to them just not knowing jack squat about anything. That and all the hormonal chaos they are constantly in distracting them from learning/doing as much.

I mean lets face it, if tables were turned. I would be a stay at home dude forever. I'm expected to screw on command (check). I have to make food but then I have to feed myself too so I just make more of what i'm already eating for the rest of my family to eat also (check). I have to workout and look good for my woman obviously the healthiest choice for me too (check). I have to clean up the house I own half of and didn't pay a cent into buying (check). Shiz, i'll do all that, keep the cars running, take out the trash, and mow the grass!! too!!
 

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Many hamsters are not only uneducated, but actually quite boring. That's why they spend so much time spinning around in their fvckin wheels.

It's a fact of life.
 

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I haven't "made a grand conclusion by citing one study", I've actually done a lot of in depth research on the topic myself, because it interests me.
Obviously you havent, since no self-respecting informed person would actually make the claims you are making.

And the author is a highly respected University Professor, not a "discredited racist crackpot".
....
Btw, I'm not making it up or basing it on one guy's opinion that men are more intelligent than women, its the only consensus position that can logically be drawn from the data.
I love these desperate flailings to try to make it look like you are the one thats being scientific. A quick google search reveals that this "highly respected university professor" is not highly respected at all, rather he is a highly criticized unscientific ignoramus. He also argues that black people are less intelligent, which is profoundly stupid (and racist) You can find in about 5 seconds many articles from other scientists criticizing his work, and organizations like the Souther Poverty Law Center

http://www.splcenter.org/get-inform...se-all-issues/2005/winter/into-the-mainstream

Its not that the conclusions are politically incorrect – its that they are wrong.
 

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d!ckmojo said:
I got an I.Q. of almost 140 and this guy is calling me a "Grade A moron"... oh the irony.
NERD FIGHT!

I'm siding with Serg, just because he didn't bother to list his "smart numbers."
 

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Also, OP, go out with smarter women.

You can try meeting them in more cultural settings. Galleries, lectures, dance classes, foreign embassy formal functions, that kinda thing.

If you think I'm yanking your chain, I assure you I'm not. Foreign embassies throw kickass parties.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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