"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Another POF Winner! Could teach her a lesson though?

the_stig

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I don't know why men seem to think that just because they have a date or two that goes well with a POF girl, that they are automatically going to close up shop and quit talking to other dudes.

New flash: It doesn't work like that.

I've met many who freely admitted (with no shame) to stacking dates, driving from one date to another, or even kept in touch with the new "friends" they made on POF while in their new relationship.

My rule of thumb is to go into any online date assuming the girl is already meeting/dating/fvcking different guys on a weekly basis, because the reality is, that she is. I've been doing online too damn long for anyone to convince me otherwise.

I had one LTR from pof; She didn't even own a computer, only had a profile up for a few days via the mobile app, no picture, found the site repulsive, was about to remove her profile, but apparently one of my pictures caught her attention so she decided to meet me. Those are lightning strike odds, but these are the girls you want to meet. In other words, grab'm before they get indoctrinated into the online dating culture.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Kailex

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For the record, if I set up a date at 6 PM with a girl that I might KINDA like... and then another girl shows up who might be a better option and wants a date at 6 PM, I'd do the same thing she did.

Your mistake was creating this fake personna and trying to get into her mind.

Why are you testing her like this, this early into a "relationship"?

And for all you know... at 4 PM "helping her sister" might mean "helping someone else get their rocks off".

Forget trying to get into their minds, it's a scary place either way.
 
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You need to keep your insecurity in check.

You gave her reason to believe that she can do better, as if she doesn't have enough options already. Man, some of you guys like to play hard mode.
 

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The fact that this is being given a serious discussion is really amusing. OP is acting really creepy. This isn't gaming, this isn't catching her in a lie, this is social retardation.

And you're 35? Jesus christ.

Big Nuts said:
Imagine if she found out you were being a scammer with a fake account? You would be up for the Mangina of the Year Award!!!
Yeah, no ****. This is beyond chump behavior.

If a guy on here found out a girl was doing this to him, there'd be a huge thread about how crazy and BPD she is.
 

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This thread was hilarious, I can't wait for that FR. As far her double booking dates. That's just the way of the world.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I don't see why everyone's down on the OP. Back in the day when I was experimenting with fake profiles, I was contacted by a chick I'd been out with a couple of times (this was before I started strictly following my rule that all chicks must bone on first date).

It was funny as hell. The fake profile was the super handsome, built, tall, successful guy. The chick contacted him. As the fake guy, I set up a "date" via the web site (didn't exchange numbers) and then just didn't show up for the date. Stood her up. I don't remember whether or not she contacted the guy online to b*tch "him" out or what.

A couple days after that "date" she and I had a date and I banged her. Of course I didn't take her seriously as LTR potential but it got me a lay.

So the rejection could make her more likely to put out. It's sort of like "Passing the P*ssy Forward" to yourself ;)

*Note: Despite the guy's handsomeness and overall quality, he didn't get THAT many more first contacts than the other profiles I created. Even high-quality dudes don't get many women breaking the ice. It just happened that this chick contacted him a couple of days after our second date. I stopped trying fake profiles back in '08.
 

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The biggest red flag I see is REYAJ. You are as nutty as some women.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Even if it did work, this is really creepy and weird. High value men don't act like this. They are way too busy in positive endeavors.
 

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I thought this was the Mature Man forum. This **** belongs in the High School forum.
 

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LorenzoVonM said:
Even if it did work, this is really creepy and weird. High value men don't act like this. They are way too busy in positive endeavors.

You're right... high value men tear down anything that actually worked in real life on an internet forum if it doesn't match their mantra... I aspire to be where you are at!
 

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Next time everyone is bvtching about no quality women on online dating sites come back to this thread. What quality woman wants to filter through weirdos like the OP? Like tends to attract like.
 
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