"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Another POF Winner! Could teach her a lesson though?

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Ok so I met another girl on POF... She is attractive, comes across as shy and down to earth. I actually though she was different and saw some potential... First time we met was for coffee... we hung out about an hour.. she drove an hour to get to my area.. it was nice.. She texted me after saying she had a good time.. Then the next time we met for a drink... did my kino thing and ended up kissing her in her car at the end of the date. We kissed but she did pull away a few times and I had work early... she didnt seem like she was ready to put out... So whatever... she texted me again saying she had a nice time and even sent a follow up text the next morning about an inside joke we had..

So anyway things looked good on the surface... but I decided to test this out a little.. I made another fake POF account with another guy's photo. I messaged her on there and she was very responsive.... gave her number out.. and is ready to meet this fake guy as well.

I as myself asked her what she was doing yesterday and she said she had to help her sister.. I told her that was fine and we could hang tonight after 6pm. She said that was great...

Then with the fake profile I asked her about hanging out today... she said she could until about 6pm because she has to help her sister out but could even push it back (meaning push our date back)...

I find it funny that she uses her "help out my sister" as her go to excuse lol...

So anyway I am thinking of handling this 1 of 2 ways:

1.) Stand her up today with the fake persona... then say he met another girl and was going to hang with her instead. This might anger her and then she can come to my place and make her want to hook up with me really good.

2.) Stand her up, then just call her out on her BS and teach her a lesson. Maybe its not worth me wasting any more time on her anyway... making her know that I tricked her and know all her BS lies could be satisfaction enough.


I would have never guessed this girl was a female player!
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Just try to eff her, man... Don't bother yourself with standing her up and calling her out, playing these silly games etc.

She is not a female player. She's just a girl being a girl! Girls date boys and they don't stick to dating ONE. If they have other options, of course they are gonna explore those as well, especially if they just met you only one time. You are not exclusive or whatever...

So don't even get mad about this, it is just the way things work and it is absolutely no use to stand her up and call her out. What, you think she will feel guilty when you confront her about it??

Just fvck her, don't bother yourself with anything else. If you don't wanna fvck her anymore, fine, then just NEXT her. But don't invest yourself in anything else, it is wasted energy, man...
 

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Die Hard said:
Just try to eff her, man... Don't bother yourself with standing her up and calling her out, playing these silly games etc.

She is not a female player. She's just a girl being a girl! Girls date boys and they don't stick to dating ONE. If they have other options, of course they are gonna explore those as well, especially if they just met you only one time. You are not exclusive or whatever...

So don't even get mad about this, it is just the way things work and it is absolutely no use to stand her up and call her out. What, you think she will feel guilty when you confront her about it??

Just fvck her, don't bother yourself with anything else. If you don't wanna fvck her anymore, fine, then just NEXT her. But don't invest yourself in anything else, it is wasted energy, man...
Yea thats the course of action I will take. She has a date with my "fake profile" at 4pm today.. what I meant was I would stand her up with this fake profile then message her and say I met another girl (the fake me) so she would be mad... Hoping that will make her more inclined to hook up with me when she comes later
 

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Man you are investing WAY too much effort and time into this particular chick.

This sounds like something a high school boy would do as payback to a cheating ex.

Drop the games and the fake profile and any and all lessons you're trying to teach this girl and move on to someone that will save you all this wasted time in the future.

Next time just f*ck her and then she will be the one behaving like you are now.

And side note: get used to girls talking/dating to more than one guy that's just in their nature. You should be focused on making them feel like they should only be wanting to talk/date you by being naturally attractive and laid back.
 

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Yeah, go with option one, fvck her. Boned a young, short redhead with big hooters last night. The foreplay was soooo erotic, on fire with the nibbling and kisses while rubbing the tip of my shroom in her panties entering her pvssy ever so slightly so hot, the actual d!ckin her was too short, cause she was so tight and moaning in my ears I couldn't stop the overflow not long after entering her. She had to be 5'1" I'm 6'2" when she gets older she'll undoubtedly be FAT. Right now, tone, but I could not see her butthole :( all girls are different they seem so hot on the outside and then disrobed they be flawed in various ways. One may have nice t!ts but no ass like last night. She didn't have any surprise tats though which told me she wasn't an out n' out risky slvt. It's girls like her though that made me have to upgrade my cellphone plan cause she texts me constantly :(
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Be objective for a second - step outside of yourself and read your OP as if you are a different person... you sound kind of psycho, don't you?

You're purposely setting this girl up to fail. Go ahead and sabotage the relationship if you want, but don't tell yourself that it's because she failed your test.

Your test is crazy.
 

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^^ I'd say he's just accepting reality right about now, that women LIE ALL THE TIME and have no conscious about it, and if you call them out on it, they cry or get some captain save-a-hoe (aplenty in the US, in this World as well) to "save" her (from YOU, the "bad" guy, oh boo hoo) and tell her she's right and you're wrong. It's good for the OP and everybody here (and nationwide even) to understand the WEAK nature of women, virtually NO integrity, unless outta the military, and even that is not a sure bet that a woman will have "character." Men usually the only ones who have "character," we are the stable ones, they are the wind or the weather which moves every which direction, on a Dime. It's hard for them to have any integrity cause they don't have a d!ck and they don't have Strength. Are there Navy Seal women?? NO!
 

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Yea I'm not going to call her out on it.. I will try to bang her today... She is meeting this fake guy at 4pm. I am going to text her (as the fake guy) "hey sorry to do this to you last minute but this other girl I was talking to is available so I am going to hang with her instead. If it doesnt work out I will let u know"

hehehe then hopefully she will be more inclined to hook up.. though this may backfire?
 

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Reyaj said:
Yea I'm not going to call her out on it.. I will try to bang her today... She is meeting this fake guy at 4pm. I am going to text her (as the fake guy) "hey sorry to do this to you last minute but this other girl I was talking to is available so I am going to hang with her instead. If it doesnt work out I will let u know"

hehehe then hopefully she will be more inclined to hook up.. though this may backfire?
This will probably make her want the fake guy more :crackup:
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Reyaj said:
Then with the fake profile I asked her about hanging out today... she said she could until about 6pm because she has to help her sister out but could even push it back (meaning push our date back)...

I find it funny that she uses her "help out my sister" as her go to excuse lol...
So what? I do this to chicks all the time that I'm not exclusive with. She's measuring her options. She barely knows you, so why should she invest 100% loyalty to you?

If you were in a LTR with her and then pulled something like this, then you'd have an issue on your hands.
 

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Desdinova said:
So what? I do this to chicks all the time that I'm not exclusive with. She's measuring her options. She barely knows you, so why should she invest 100% loyalty to you?

If you were in a LTR with her and then pulled something like this, then you'd have an issue on your hands.

I agree. However the fact that she lies about it saying "I have to do something with my sister" plus I caught her in 2 other lies doing this. Should the fact that she lies relegate her to just someone I should try bone?
 

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I'm not sure why people here are giving this girl a hard time for dating more than one guy. Especially when she has only been out with OP once. They are hardly in an exclusive relationship. Everyone tells guys here to spin plates until you find one worthy of being exclusive with.

She is just doing what we advise. Good for her. She doesn't owe the OP a thing right now.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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You and her are not invested enough in each other for her not to tell a tiny white lie. Her lie was a no brainer, she has no idea if "you're the one".

Imagine if she found out you were being a scammer with a fake account? You would be up for the Mangina of the Year Award!!!
 

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I've been out with her twice for the record lol And I am fine with her dating/talking to other people - So are we saying its no big deal that shes lies and I shouldn't interpret these as red flags??
 

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Reyaj said:
I've been out with her twice for the record lol And I am fine with her dating/talking to other people - So are we saying its no big deal that shes lies and I shouldn't interpret these as red flags??
Would you rather her tell you she is going out with another guy? Probably not. And even if she was going out with a real guy, it is just more polite to tell someone they are busy with whatever than rubbing it in a person's face that they are going out with someone else and that is why she can't go out with you at such and such a time.

It's a little white lie meant to protect feels. No big deal. We would and probably all do the same thing.
 

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samspade said:
If your end is to fukk her then all's fair.

If your goal is to expose her as a "liar" and call her out on it, you are wasting your time. Even if she apologizes to your face she won't mean it.
She has nothing to apologize for.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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