"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Another Nail in The coffin

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So has you read from my last post. Me and my GF broke up. Well i followed all your guys advice and started approaching other women and just generally feeling better about everything.

Until she messaged me.

"I just wanted to say hi. its kind of weird to think you should be here. You were everything for so long, and this last week you haven't/ i'm not going to say sry about calling you and freaking out, i was hurt, still am when i think about how everything happened. But with all that aside, i just wanted to say hey really.

ok. well
bye "


so i message her back by saying "Ok well atleast we can be friends."

she messages me back

"well if thats how you feel. then i'll have to accept it. friends, but for now, i can't, i sort met someone, and i don't know if anything will come out of it. But if i talk to you, it will be hard, and i'll just compare what we had, and that not fair. and i just don't think its time to spark something up between us again. it seems like life has already written its course. but your still in my heart. i'll be talking to you. lol >< bye"

The sort of seeing one. Seeing that killed me. Does this girl not have any feelings? Does she know about the rule of not talking about other people your going out with to your ex?

That wasn't the nail on the coffin. The nail on the coffin was when i found out that she's seeing her friend. The one that i trusted with us. Looks like she was seeing him while she was with me.

I was doing great until this.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Igetit!

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Oh yeah,I remember you. You're the guy who said that your girlfriend was being bitter and said that she hoped that something would happen to you. Boy,that was a painful post.
As if these comments weren't painful enough,now she's still trying to get at you. Man,if this is how she's acting now,I wonder what was it like actually being in a relationship with her. You're a LOT stronger than I am. I don't know how you can continue to put up with this perpetual pain/heartache from her,cause I would have just cut off contact a looooong time ago.

All this pain,all this hurt,all this anger,all this emotional torture you're getting from her,and for some reason,I bet if you could,you'd still get back together with her. Or am I wrong?
 

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Move on....

I'm not gonna be nice about this, you needa hear real talk

and that being, move the "f" on, this girl is seeing another guy, all she is doing is setting you up as option b, in case things don't go well and fall thru, trust me, I went thru this with my first love 5 years ago. She wants her cake and eat it too. But why be a number 2 option when you can be number 1?
 

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Chick sounds like a real weirdo. I wouldn't bother reading any more of her txts
 

Warrior74

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Stop being an idiot. She just wants to 'win'. SHe wants to walk away smug in the knowledge that she's got you. Got you emotionally focked up, got you thinking about her, got into your head, that she got to hurt you one last time. She wants to diminish you so she feels better about herself. "see he was a loser anyway! what was I thinking!" she wants to preserve her precious ego and esteem. She wanted to rub some other guy in your face, And you fell for it. Dood. Females who have male friends always keep them around for an emergency relationship. Ever wonder where the rebound guy comes from?

Now you need to quit being a poosy and harden the **** up. YOu knew she wasn't shyt when you left her and she still ain't shyt now. She just proved it to you. So put your heart back in your chest, throw the lock on it and go spin your plates.

Now stop being a dumbass and cut all contact.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Igetit! said:
You're a LOT stronger than I am. I don't know how you can continue to put up with this perpetual pain/heartache from her,cause I would have just cut off contact a looooong time ago.

All this pain,all this hurt,all this anger,all this emotional torture you're getting from her,and for some reason,I bet if you could,you'd still get back together with her. Or am I wrong?
No he is weaker for not being able to walk away. The ability to walk away is essential for being a DJ.
 

Jeffst1980

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Block her number. Seriously.
She's going to continue trying to hurt you until she's confident that she's done so. There is no other explanation for her behavior. It is in no way a reflection of genuine feeling.

If I was in your shoes, I would be PISSED at the audacity of this girl. She talked about dumping you, and then when you let her go before she could she told you she hoped that you would DIE??? What kind of person is she? Is this really someone that could bring ANY good into your life?

Don't respond to any more texts. Don't react to her using some other guy to get back at you--he's just a pawn, you should be able to see that. What you said so far was fine, leave it at that.

Everything that this girl is doing is motivated by her low self esteem and desire to hurt you. The only way to win at this game is not to play.
 

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everywomanshero said:
Chick sounds like a real weirdo.
Seconded.

Why would these weird texts throw you off your game? That's just what she wants....she's messing with you....

Cut off all contact. Period.
 

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This girl is a grade A c.u.n.t! Count your lucky stars you have dodged this bullet. Move on, cut all contact with her and never look back..... she cares nothing for you and only wants to kick you when you are down.

Have nothing more to do with her, do not feed her ego with anymore of your attention. Back the f.u.c.k away from this b.i.t.c.h....... she's poison.
 

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I would never take her back. I was doing great without her. Was having success with girls but isn't it weird that when you forget them, they pop back up that one more time?

Luckily i didnt respond to her message after that. I mean i had deleted everything about her and go on with my life. It was just a blow to the chest to see that.

I admit though i do need to gain the ability to walk away, it's the greatest tool that we men can posess
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Ok. So you tell her that you just want to be friends and then she throws her relationship in your face. Where did that come from?

This girl is full of it. She was just trying to make you jealous. Don't give her the satisfaction. Go about your life and continue to see other girls.
 

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I firmly believe that there is a reason as to why you are hurting. In my personal opinion this poor excuse of a woman that you speak of is in for a sick power trip of some sort. I'm not very good with women by experience but I'll give you my personal opinion.

I personally think the breakup was a pre-meditated one. She probably thought about it for some time and had found someone else before hand. The text message she sent you is bull****. Nothing more than words meant to hurt you but sugar coated and masked with lovey dovey bull****. I wouldn't believe a word of it because it sounds like she either 1) purposely wants to hurt you to prove her own pathetic self worth or 2) have a way back with you just in case it doesn't work out with the new guy (if there is one). Heck maybe even both.

This is just my opinion btw based on my limited experience so take everything I tell you with a grain of salt. Hope that helps but if I were you I would ignore her. You are in no position to be communicating with the broad.
 

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For the same reason that successful corporations don't keep former chief executives involved in their affairs, you shouldn't keep former girlfriends involved in yours.
 

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It's pointless to preach to the choir here and repeat what everyone else has said.

Whether she is still into you or not, when it comes down to it she's not relationship material. I've known/dated women like this my whole life. They are indecisive and they have no idea what they want. She wants your attention and your company, but she doesn't want to be held accountable when she decides she wants to be a slut with other guys.

There's really no need to talk to this chick, she's just attempting to string you on for the sake of her ego. Don't let her telling you about other guys fool you and definitely don't let her telling you that she still has feelings fool you. Women like to talk. They like to say things to get reactions. Tell her nicely, to f*ck off. If she really did care about you and was relationship material, she wouldn't be messing with your mind like this.
 

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It's pointless to preach to the choir here and repeat what everyone else has said.

Whether she is still into you or not, when it comes down to it she's not relationship material. I've known/dated women like this my whole life. They are indecisive and they have no idea what they want. She wants your attention and your company, but she doesn't want to be held accountable when she decides she wants to be a slut with other guys.

There's really no need to talk to this chick, she's just attempting to string you on for the sake of her ego. Don't let her telling you about other guys fool you and definitely don't let her telling you that she still has feelings fool you. Women like to talk. They like to say things to get reactions. Tell her nicely, to f*ck off. If she really did care about you and was relationship material, she wouldn't be messing with your mind like this.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Never tell an ex you want to be friends. More talking and less sex is definitely NOT an upgrade. Cut her out of your life.
 

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Heres what will happen after this.

She's gonna get dumped by that guy or she'll dump him;

she'll come holler at you to come hang out;

which you will NOT DO for whatever reason..

Now: Two ways out of this.

1. you can text her back and say, The reason you mentioned you can be friends is because you're kinda having to pick between these 3 girls you're seeing in your town.

2. You can drop that b!tchs number, go out and get 4 girls keep your week full and go to the gym. Then post up on fb and myspace, pics of you and your new experiences...

either way, she's using you like a doormat. and NO MAN!! should be put through that.

so stand up,shake it off and go to the gym..watch some comedy shows on youtube and laugh it off.
go out and get some girls..

BUT DO NOT GO BACK WHEN SHE RINGS YOU IN 2 WEEKS.

shes only trying to hurt you now because you hurt her by walking away
 

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Yeh wicked game of chess there .. you almost won with the "we can be friends" but she checkmated with "no , cause i met someone"..

Ignore her for a while then imply that you feel much better not being with her.,
 

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These situations suck man ive been there. Like someone said before, move on. I would cut off all contact and just see other girls as much as possible and stay busy.
 
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