Another Hooters conversation...

[RichardTheFrog]

If you're not interested in some extended interaction or going on a date just to try to have sex, then continue to pay for it via backpage or SA or whatever. That's direct, the non sexual interaction is brief, and you don't have to take them on a date. It literally covers all the things you want and exludes all the things you don't. If you become rich in the future and want to maintain one or a few hot girls you can arrange something long term with SA or just go where the gold diggers hunt, like country clubs and other places where rich old dudes hang out. Be the youngest rich guy there and you will clean up.

I think you are trying to use a game strategy that goes against your nature and your interests, and this is why you keep butting heads with people here. It's like a vegatarian asking what's the best way to grill a steak. What you want and what people are advising are conflicting. You seek advice for meeting women but the advice you get involves interacting with and dating women, two things you have stated a million times that you don't want to do. You find women boring, you don't want to go on a date, you just want sex. Nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't seem to fit into what people are trying to advise you on.

It's true that if I were content with just Backpage and Seeking Arrangement, there would be no point in me being here.

Do you really think people on here are throwing awesome advice at me to "get some" for free? I think 90% of the posts directed at me are insults, and I don't think most of the people here do any better than I do for free. Maybe a few, but the girls they get with are most likely not hotter than the ones I pay for.

Please tell me what you hear people telling me to do. Please don't tell me "go back and read" because it's an impossible task to go back and read 100,000 posts.

 

[Macaframalama]

Is that the only way?

I think that even if she were interested, that might just bore her.

But also directly asking for sex is a little inappropriate. I mean we're all adults, but it's not like asking someone for directions.

No, you could span approach chics with some canned routine and try to play the numbers game like some of the other clowns out there or you could just do it like normal people do and improve your social skills and work on becoming a more interesting person and go out and meet chics/people.

If it bores her, fvck her. Keep improving and next.

Who said anything about asking for sex? You meet them, you hang with them, you fvck them.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

No, you could span approach chics with some canned routine and try to play the numbers game like some of the other clowns out there or you could just do it like normal people do and improve your social skills and work on becoming a more interesting person and go out and meet chics/people.

If it bores her, fvck her. Keep improving and next.

Who said anything about asking for sex? You meet them, you hang with them, you fvck them.

This all sounds good in theory. I'll put it to the test next time I go to a bar, which should be about 20 minutes.

What makes a guy interesting to a girl? A house flipping business? Having money?

What works for others to make them seem interesting? And I do know that girls find all kinds of dumb things interesting. At least some of the younger ones.

 

[dustmuffin]

This all sounds good in theory. I'll put it to the test next time I go to a bar, which should be about 20 minutes.

What makes a guy interesting to a girl? A house flipping business? Having money?

What works for others to make them seem interesting? And I do know that girls find all kinds of dumb things interesting. At least some of the younger ones.

Richard, when you talk to a woman you make it about her. Female should be talking 80% of the time. You ask questions, you tease her. Maybe tickle her for some kino. Plus you should be lightly touching her on the arm, hair, back. Kino is your friend. There is no set rule book. You need to try things and see what works for you.

I have three dates this weekend. One sure f uck. Other two are first times. Plus I just got back on bumble today and matched about 15 women. You need to practice on real women. Not hooters girls or strippers or prostitutes.

 

[RangerMIke]

I've dated more than a couple of 'Hooter's Girls", it's all business. They are taught how to maximizes tips. Many times they like you and enjoy the attention.... but the foundation is a transaction relationship. If they are really interested they will let you know... chicks who like you will not confuse you.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

I've dated more than a couple of 'Hooter's Girls", it's all business. They are taught how to maximizes tips. Many times they like you and enjoy the attention.... but the foundation is a transaction relationship. If they are really interested they will let you know... chicks who like you will not confuse you.

So did you really date them and have sex with them? Did you spend time with them outside the restaurant?

Tbh, I feel like I'm above their league, but I don't expect them to see it that way.

 

[RangerMIke]

So did you really date them and have sex with them? Did you spend time with them outside the restaurant?

Tbh, I feel like I'm above their league, but I don't expect them to see it that way.

Yes, yes, and yes.... but it was some time ago 2000-2002. They had boob jobs paid for in part by the company... I really don't like fake boobs... but everything else was a okay. Never worry about if a chick is in your league or not, if you want her... try to make a date she will let you know if you don't make her tingle.

 

[Macaframalama]

The fact that you think it's some sort of an either/or proposition is indicative of astounding narrow mindedness. Ie, cold-approach and social-circle have no cross over.

Go out and do 100 sets, and see how hard that is. Then join some meet-up groups, and it's seriously like lifting children's weights in comparison.

You can keep up the unreasonable cretinous negs. But ultimately, i've posted dozens of pictures, field tested a lot of different stuff, offered to wing guys from here in my local area, judging by "likes" have presumably said some stuff that helped others, etc.

It's about value. We all see value in different things, based on perspective from life experience.

I personally dislike online dating, and couldn't wrap my head around it. Don't see me keep going on about it.

Life's too short to focus too much on the stuff you don't find value in.

I'm out meeting women everyday. I just don't use canned routines and I told him that he doesn't have to either. What he was doing was a start. I and everybody else here could have critiqued his convo, but he would be better served by just going and doing and getting some experience. Look at the bigger picture. He comes here everyday, asking for the millionth time for some secret revelation of what women want. Newsflash... It's no fvcking secret. At least if he would have tried to number close, he could have took something away from it, regardless of the outcome. Bro, IDC about likes or negs or pics or whatever else, but for an online personality, I like Richard. If anyone's feeling some type of way, you know I honestly don't care about that either. It's a shame, but it's not like I rolled out of bed and up in this thread trying to trigger ppl. It's my opinion, it's what works for me and ultimately, he will take it or leave it.

 

[corrector]

It's true that if I were content with just Backpage and Seeking Arrangement, there would be no point in me being here.

But you aren't going to be really motivated to find real women if you are paying to deal with hotties. You may end up with far less without allot of effort.
They are supposed to be a last-resort, so lets say you approach 100 women and can't get laid, well, then that would make sense since you are in control of the reward. When you start taking a reward like that, and start spoiling yourself with it, then it sort of kills the motivation.

When I saw a backpage escort, I did it when I was successful with a woman to a point that I got married and ended up divorced (therefore some effort was made that didn't work out and I eventually rewarded myself by seeing an escort), and the laws were changing where I was. If I even look at porn, I put together boundaries where there has to be some real life rejection or effort that didn't work out before i even go there.

But, if you are able to see an escort or watch porn anytime you want, or afford to do that, then you can't really be motivated to get a real women you are not paying for. It would be too much trouble for you because you already spoiled yourself since you are not in control of the reward, the reward is controlling you and you are therefore in a cycle and won't have that urgency since you are used to seeing escorts.

Resolve never to look at porn, or go to an escort until you make at least 100 approaches to women over the next 2 weeks, and if you manage to get laid, then give it another 2 weeks, etc....

It is with with regret that I have that type of narrative existing. What I just wrote above is contrary to everything I believe in on a religious level, but it's a dialogue or narrative that exists and I find your thread/posts tends to bring that type of expression out. However, it is simply all wrong to see an escort, but then again, I believe all sex outside of marriage is wrong too. So don't take this post like I'm condoning anything because I'm not, I'm expressing a crazy narrative I don't believe in since your posts represent something I could have been and would have tweaked out to work for me, but doesn't really exist if I am also a Christian as true Christians do not get laid, they pray and get close to God instead. Getting laid leads to hell and further away from God. Why would I say something like that here? Don't follow the above advice just quit everything, become celibate and repent. What can I say.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Yes, yes, and yes.... but it was some time ago 2000-2002. They had boob jobs paid for in part by the company... I really don't like fake boobs... but everything else was a okay. Never worry about if a chick is in your league or not, if you want her... try to make a date she will let you know if you don't make her tingle.

I'm pretty sure I wouldn't make her "tingle."

Money and a bunch of boring conversation?

 

[RichardTheFrog]

I'm out meeting women everyday. I just don't use canned routines and I told him that he doesn't have to either. What he was doing was a start. I and everybody else here could have critiqued his convo, but he would be better served by just going and doing and getting some experience. Look at the bigger picture. He comes here everyday, asking for the millionth time for some secret revelation of what women want. Newsflash... It's no fvcking secret. At least if he would have tried to number close, he could have took something away from it, regardless of the outcome. Bro, IDC about likes or negs or pics or whatever else, but for an online personality, I like Richard. If anyone's feeling some type of way, you know I honestly don't care about that either. It's a shame, but it's not like I rolled out of bed and up in this thread trying to trigger ppl. It's my opinion, it's what works for me and ultimately, he will take it or leave it.

I've never asked for a magic pill or canned routines ever.

All this small talk stuff is getting boring. It leads nowhere.