Another Hooters conversation...

[RichardTheFrog]

Another conversation with a very attractive Hooters girl... different Hooters than I posted about last time. Trust me, I know ALL the Hooters in a 100 mile radius haha.

So I walked in there feeling real confident, you know I got my house flipping thing going on. I hadn't been at this Hooters for about a year and they apparently remodeled. The bar was in a different place. I said to the bartender, "it looks different in here," and she told me they remodeled about a year ago. The bar was split between outside and inside. At first, I was inside, but then I went outside. I thought at first that this was a bad move because I was the only one out there and all the girls and the few customers who were there were inside.

I started drinking and after 1 beer, I thought that everyone there didn't like me. The bartender asked me if I wanted a box, and I thought she was just trying to rush me out. But apparently, I was just being paranoid because she came over 10 minutes later and started a conversation...

She asked me if I had anything exciting planned for the day. I told her that I DID (past tense), but that it got cancelled. I told her I was supposed to have tile layed in my house flip (subtle way of telling her that I flip houses, which I think is a DHV)... I told her that the guys I hired were people I barely knew and they went and worked on some other job leaving me to wait for a few days. I told them I was even nice enough to pay them a little ahead of schedule because they said they had a bill to pay. And said that it always bites you even when you try to be nice to people. She agreed, and I forget exactly how the conversation went, but it seemed like it was mutually enjoyable.

I ended up tipping her $10 on a bill of I think $22, then I left.

I forgot my sweater on the seat next to me so I had to go back in, but I just went in and got it.

Now read my posts about Backpage escorts.... how do I bridge the gap here? Is it even possible? Obviously, I don't want to be fvcking Backpage hookers the rest of my life.

Assuming a girl would find me attractive, which I actually think a lot of them would if I started going out often again.... how to get all that sex for free? Is it even possible?

Because as you can see, I have no problem making small talk as long as the girl is receptive of it. I cannot always control whether a girl will be receptive to my small talk. It could be based on her personality, based on how much she does or does not find me physically attractive, or even what kind of mood she's in that day.

 

[Bible_Belt]

The bartender asked me if I wanted a box, and I thought she was just trying to rush me out. But apparently, I was just being paranoid because she came over 10 minutes later and started a conversation...I ended up tipping her $10 on a bill of I think $22, then I left.

She was obviously hustling you for a fat tip.

The answer to your question is to find a reason for her to want to talk to you again, which would necessitate her giving you her number. That;s why I told you to check out real estate seminars and look for girls there. It would be a lot easier than Hooters.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

The bartender asked me if I wanted a box, and I thought she was just trying to rush me out. But apparently, I was just being paranoid because she came over 10 minutes later and started a conversation...I ended up tipping her $10 on a bill of I think $22, then I left.

She was obviously hustling you for a fat tip.

The answer to your question is to find a reason for her to want to talk to you again, which would necessitate her giving you her number. That;s why I told you to check out real estate seminars and look for girls there. It would be a lot easier than Hooters.

She couldn't honestly have been enjoying the conversation? Do you fvck any girls that are good looking? Why so negative? Do you think that nobody fvcks Hooters girls? Maybe I'm on their level (or above it), and most guys are not? I have talked to Hooters girls that have 2 kids with guys they met there.

Over the past 3 days, I have tipped bartenders $0 three times, and $1 one time. I only tip if she genuinely seems like a good person.

Why don't you just assume that what I said is true and try to answer the question?

I don't even know what a "real estate seminar" is, nor do I have any interest in going to one. I'm not interested in hearing some jerk off scam artist "real estate guru" talk a bunch of bvllsh1t. I generally hate realtors, and I have a general disrespect for females in real estate because they're incapable of doing any hard work. I would not find a girl more attractive because she's interested in real estate. If anything, I would think she would just want to steal my secrets.

Do you know what your average "Hooters girl" is? She's a girl in her early 20's who is probably (hopefully) still in school. She likely has not seen much of the world.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Do you know what your average "Hooters girl" is? .

Hooters started in Clearwater. I lived in Tampa for seven years, so yes, I know what a hooters girl is. For the most part, they are white trash skanks. They are the same girls you are buying off the Internet.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Hooters started in Clearwater. I lived in Tampa for seven years, so yes, I know what a hooters girl is. For the most part, they are white trash skanks. They are the same girls you are buying off the Internet.

They don't spend their lives living in hotels fvcking 5 guys/day, do they?

Are you saying they are gold diggers? Well GREAT!!! Then I should be able to get them no problem.

Problem is, I'm not rich yet. That might have to wait 1-2 years before I can really get this house flipping thing down. Or maybe less.

At least half of them are not even white, though.

Are you saying that I could fvck them if I offered money? I doubt that is true, and would probably get me permanently banned from Hooters. And even if they would agree, how exactly to do that in public? This is the same problem I have in strip clubs.

 

[Bible_Belt]

I wish I was still down in Florida, so I could offer for us to hang out in person. You need to work on being able to decipher what women are thinking as you talk to them.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

I wish I was still down in Florida, so I could offer for us to hang out in person. You need to work on being able to decipher what women are thinking as you talk to them.

So now I have to become a mind reader?

Is that even possible?

Can't I just stick to flipping houses?

Btw, I think the fact that you're calling them "women" means you're giving them more credit than they deserve. Stupid little girls maybe?

 

[Glassguy]

Goes to Hooters and somehow pulls a conversation out of a waitress who is there to talk to you in the first place for the tip.

Sort of like going to Victoria Secret and saying that you got a woman into a sexually charged conversation about women's underwear.

Thats what they are there for pal. They get paid for it. Same as strippers rubbing their titt$ all over you. Its not personal.

Thats not game. Thats not socialization with a outcome goal in mind. I get that its "practice", but too much practice and not enough real life game.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Goes to Hooters and somehow pulls a conversation out of a waitress who is there to talk to you in the first place for the tip.

Sort of like going to Victoria Secret and saying that you got a woman into a sexually charged conversation about women's underwear.

Thats what they are there for pal. They get paid for it. Same as strippers rubbing their titt$ all over you. Its not personal.

Thats not game. Thats not socialization with a outcome goal in mind. I get that its "practice", but too much practice and not enough real life game.

So Hooters girls don't have sex?

 

[skinnyguy]

Goes to Hooters and somehow pulls a conversation out of a waitress who is there to talk to you in the first place for the tip.

Sort of like going to Victoria Secret and saying that you got a woman into a sexually charged conversation about women's underwear.

Thats what they are there for pal. They get paid for it. Same as strippers rubbing their titt$ all over you. Its not personal.

Thats not game. Thats not socialization with a outcome goal in mind. I get that its "practice", but too much practice and not enough real life game.

I guess he wants to only deal with women are getting paid for their bodies

 

[RichardTheFrog]

I guess he wants to only deal with women are getting paid for their bodies

At least it's honest. I would prefer a Hooters girl to a female scientist, wouldn't you?

 

[Glassguy]

At least it's honest. I would prefer a Hooters girl to a female scientist, wouldn't you?

No. A hot female scientist would probably be more stimulating in more than looks alone and would have much more to offer than some chick who is either to young or too old to swing off the stripper pole

 

[RichardTheFrog]

No. A hot female scientist would probably be more stimulating in more than looks alone and would have much more to offer than some chick who is either to young or too old to swing off the stripper pole

Maybe to you.

I already know about science. I don't need to learn it from them.

 

[sazc]

She couldn't honestly have been enjoying the conversation? Do you fvck any girls that are good looking? Why so negative? Do you think that nobody fvcks Hooters girls? Maybe I'm on their level (or above it), and most guys are not? I have talked to Hooters girls that have 2 kids with guys they met there.

Over the past 3 days, I have tipped bartenders $0 three times, and $1 one time. I only tip if she genuinely seems like a good person.

Why don't you just assume that what I said is true and try to answer the question?

I don't even know what a "real estate seminar" is, nor do I have any interest in going to one. I'm not interested in hearing some jerk off scam artist "real estate guru" talk a bunch of bvllsh1t. I generally hate realtors, and I have a general disrespect for females in real estate because they're incapable of doing any hard work. I would not find a girl more attractive because she's interested in real estate. If anything, I would think she would just want to steal my secrets.

Do you know what your average "Hooters girl" is? She's a girl in her early 20's who is probably (hopefully) still in school. She likely has not seen much of the world.

@RichardTheFrog

Just an observation...

I don't find @Bible_Belt response to be offensive however I do note that you IMMEDIATELY get defensive and assume he is attacking you, in your reply.

I don't see that...

However, this is the same reflexive response you have with the immediate assumption that the waitress is trying to get you to leave quickly.

And you typically dive into a defensive "fvck you" response on these boards.

What if you are always WRONG with your assumptions in regards to how people are intending to treat you?

What if that mental tape recorder, the one that plays (screams at you) in a loop in your head, the one that tells you your value, and tells you how other people see your value, what if it's WRONG and you are interacting with the world from a defensive posture that is truly erroneous?

Then you would be there sole cause of all your angst.

Think about what the tape recorder in your head is constantly saying. Listen to it. Is it encouraging? Is it destructive? It takes work to change the narrative on it, but you CAN change it.

We all have them, the tape recorders. If we're lucky our parents and primary caregivers imprinted supportive messages.

What does yours say to you and are you still enough to change it if you need to?

This post is only my personal observation and thoughts, and is completely rhetorical.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

@RichardTheFrog

Just an observation...

I don't find @Bible_Belt response to be offensive however I do note that you IMMEDIATELY get defensive and assume he is attacking you, in your reply.

I don't see that...

However, this is the same reflexive response you have with the immediate assumption that the waitress is trying to get you to leave quickly.

And you typically dive into a defensive "fvck you" response on these boards.

What if you are always WRONG with your assumptions in regards to how people are intending to treat you?

What if that mental tape recorder, the one that plays (screams at you) in a loop in your head, the one that tells you your value, and tells you how other people see your value, what if it's WRONG and you are interacting with the world from a defensive posture that is truly erroneous?

Then you would be there sole cause of all your angst.

Think about what the tape recorder in your head is constantly saying. Listen to it. Is it encouraging? Is it destructive? It takes work to change the narrative on it, but you CAN change it.

We all have them, the tape recorders. If we're lucky our parents and primary caregivers imprinted supportive messages.

What does yours say to you and are you still enough to change it if you need to?

This post is only my personal observation and thoughts, and is completely rhetorical.

Perhaps sometimes I am on the paranoid side (thinking people dislike/hate me when they don't), and perhaps sometimes I'm on the erotomanic side (thinking people are attracted when they're not). And I'm probably somewhere in between a lot of the time, too. I have no way of reading minds. I'm sure sometimes I've assumed attraction when it wasn't there, and other times I've completely missed attraction when it was there.

But as far as the point of the post, let's just assume that this particular girl was interested in the interaction.

I've had so many "small talks" with people, that it's old as fvck. How to translate this into sex? I know how to make small talk if she's receptive. I know how to fvck. I'm lost on what's in between.

I read a story about Aziz Ansari lately, and I'm not talking about the scandal, I'm talking about the date he went on prior. He took her out for dinner. Then, they went back to his house. That's how celebrities do it, so probably no need for me to overthink it. Problem is, I'm not really interested in going on "dates" or having some extended interaction just to try to have sex with a girl.

 

[Macaframalama]

how do I bridge the gap here?

Tell her, that you think she is attractive and you want to take her out. Get her number. End of story. You don't need any nifty pick up lines, routines or excuses to ask her out, other than you find her attractive and you go after what you want.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Tell her, that you think she is attractive and you want to take her out. Get her number. End of story. You don't need any nifty pick up lines, routines or excuses to ask her out, other than you find her attractive and you go after what you want.

Yea that seems to be the socially normal thing to do...

But honestly it doesn't interest me "going out" with someone.

 

[Macaframalama]

Yea that seems to be the socially normal thing to do...

But honestly it doesn't interest me "going out" with someone.

Then don't. You just asked how to bridge the gap. I told you.

 

[AJ84]

Perhaps sometimes I am on the paranoid side (thinking people dislike/hate me when they don't), and perhaps sometimes I'm on the erotomanic side (thinking people are attracted when they're not). And I'm probably somewhere in between a lot of the time, too. I have no way of reading minds. I'm sure sometimes I've assumed attraction when it wasn't there, and other times I've completely missed attraction when it was there.

But as far as the point of the post, let's just assume that this particular girl was interested in the interaction.

I've had so many "small talks" with people, that it's old as fvck. How to translate this into sex? I know how to make small talk if she's receptive. I know how to fvck. I'm lost on what's in between.

I read a story about Aziz Ansari lately, and I'm not talking about the scandal, I'm talking about the date he went on prior. He took her out for dinner. Then, they went back to his house. That's how celebrities do it, so probably no need for me to overthink it. Problem is, I'm not really interested in going on "dates" or having some extended interaction just to try to have sex with a girl.

If you're not interested in some extended interaction or going on a date just to try to have sex, then continue to pay for it via backpage or SA or whatever. That's direct, the non sexual interaction is brief, and you don't have to take them on a date. It literally covers all the things you want and exludes all the things you don't. If you become rich in the future and want to maintain one or a few hot girls you can arrange something long term with SA or just go where the gold diggers hunt, like country clubs and other places where rich old dudes hang out. Be the youngest rich guy there and you will clean up.

I think you are trying to use a game strategy that goes against your nature and your interests, and this is why you keep butting heads with people here. It's like a vegatarian asking what's the best way to grill a steak. What you want and what people are advising are conflicting. You seek advice for meeting women but the advice you get involves interacting with and dating women, two things you have stated a million times that you don't want to do. You find women boring, you don't want to go on a date, you just want sex. Nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't seem to fit into what people are trying to advise you on.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Then don't. You just asked how to bridge the gap. I told you.

Is that the only way?

I think that even if she were interested, that might just bore her.

But also directly asking for sex is a little inappropriate. I mean we're all adults, but it's not like asking someone for directions.