"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Ok I met this girl and we are supposed to hang out friday but the other day she said she still wanted to hang out friday but she wanted to go the movies with me today (wednesday). I know first date movie is a horrible idea but she suggested it and she is a big movie lover so I just went with it. I'm picking her up at her house. We are going to like a 7:30 showing. So should I get her early enough for coffee or dinner or something beforehand or wait til after the movie? I do plan on doing something with her after the movie. How should I go about this?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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The only thing that sucks (besides it being a movie date and you gotta sit there for 1.5 hrs and be quiet) is that she has the power to leave you after the movie, so yeah, I would definitely make plans for coffee/drinks afterwards. It shows you are capable of doing so and that she didn't command the whole night with her movie idea. If she jets after the movie, I would next her, that would seem selfish on her part and doesn't care about YOUR plans.

Let us know how it goes.
 

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I will let you know how it goes and I'm picking her up from her house.
 

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I've been on a few movie dates recently and used them to escalate via kino, and being a funny b@stard.
You can build rapport by playfully fighting over the armrest and when you're deciding where to sit, say something like: "I know you probably want to take me right up the back where it's dark, but I prefer sitting here."
Make sure you pick the seat though. Be in control and lead.
 

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actually movies arent bad at all. You dont disclose any information about yourself, aka being mysterious to her. You can initiate kino with her too, arm around her or hand on her lap/leg. Read muscle mans log, thats what he does and it works perfectly.

Make sure its a movie YOU want to see, FVCK what she wants to see .

Exactly what GP said, you can make funny comments and get to her laugh which is a plus. Good luck brotha
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Well the date went good. She gave me a ton of IOIs. We went and grabbed a small bite to eat before the movies and then after the movie we went and sat on top of a building downtown and chilled. We made out some.

I have a small problem though. We were jokingly arguing and I said ok you win. I said I guess you get a prize. She is expecting a prize or something tomorrow when we go hiking. I'm not clever enough to think of something haha. Any help?
 

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adamw5963 said:
Well the date went good. She gave me a ton of IOIs. We went and grabbed a small bite to eat before the movies and then after the movie we went and sat on top of a building downtown and chilled. We made out some.

I have a small problem though. We were jokingly arguing and I said ok you win. I said I guess you get a prize. She is expecting a prize or something tomorrow when we go hiking. I'm not clever enough to think of something haha. Any help?
Going hiking tomorrow, too? Are you guys in love now?

Don't bring her a prize. It was a funny joke you made in the moment. Let it pass. She's not going to ask you about it. And if by some small 5% chance she does, just play it off. "Oh, you didn't get the flowers I sent to your office? Can't trust the postal service these days."

People get themselves in trouble when they try to be too clever....too funny. Stay within your own personality. Don't try too hard. Have fun.
 

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The prize...... you can easily use that to your advantage. An excuse to kiss her, and escalade it towards a lay. "heres your prize.... grab her and kiss her"
 
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