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Andro Vs Creatine

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I am sick of taking creatine and my last cycle got interrupted by a wrist injury. I'm thinking about taking a 4-andro /zma stack in place of the creatine. what do you think

ANdro Max -- 2x a day

Tribulus Terristris extract 225mg
Saw Palmetto extract 100mg
Chrysin 156mg
Androstenedione-4 100mg
DHEA 50mg
Yohimbe extract 50mg
Green Tea extract 43mg

ZMA

Zinc 30 mg
Magnesium 450 mg
 

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Originally posted by Industry
I am sick of taking creatine and my last cycle got interrupted by a wrist injury. I'm thinking about taking a 4-andro /zma stack in place of the creatine. what do you think

ANdro Max -- 2x a day

Tribulus Terristris extract 225mg
Saw Palmetto extract 100mg
Chrysin 156mg
Androstenedione-4 100mg
DHEA 50mg
Yohimbe extract 50mg
Green Tea extract 43mg

ZMA

Zinc 30 mg
Magnesium 450 mg
that whole stack is garbage. It's worthless - you have pretty much included every bunk supplement of the last 10 years !! I'm surprised you didn't include Boron or Ecdy-vol in your stack!

You don't "CYCLE" creatine... by the way...
 

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Can't comment on all these as I have only used some.

I can personally take or leave creatine - usally leave it.

My experience of ZMA is that it's pretty worthless.

I have gotten good results with Tribulus but 225mg per day is a complete waste of time - try 1500mg.

4 - dione: Will do little if anything for gains but will nicely convert to estrogen if that's your thing.
 

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Creatine and ZMA have been worthless for me. I went through a bottle of Andro and saw some results, but it made me moody so I haven't touched it since.

I usually use Nitrotech for protine and and a bottle of some stuff called NO2.
 
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