"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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And this is why you DONT use online dating

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Funny and embarrassing story mates. Had a plentyoffish account about a year ago. I met a couple of chicks nothing that was worth anything. While I had my account this old large unattractive lady ill call OLDBAG sent me a meassge saying i looked familiar and saying she has seen me out. I messaged her back curious as to where she seen me I also gave her a FAKE NAME to cover my tracks. Long story short she lives around the corner she also had a hot niece that i went to school with. I messaged the old chick a couple times hinting that i thought her niece was hot and hoping she would give me her nieces contact info. That went nowhere.

So fast forward tonight >>>> I go to my local bar solo no biggie as i know the bartenders and regulars. I grab a drink and spot my boy and his chick playing pool. I go mingle with them and say whats up. Couple minutes later I swear out of nowhere jumps the OLDBAG saying hey NATE! ( thats the alias i gave her).acting like we were best friends and everything my boy is like WTF is he talking to this bag. I just give him a confused look and try to cut it short with her. She then literaly grabs me and says she wants me to meet her friends who are out on the patio i go willingly since im already in shock lol. So when we get outside theres her group of friends also a bartender whos man i am good friends with.So the OLDBAG proceeds to yell out so everyone FREAKIN outside will hear HEY EVERYONE THIS IS MY GOOD FRIEND NATE!! THAT I MET ON PLENTYOFISH!!! The bartender was like who did you say..lol seeing as i gave the broad a fake name and my name isnt nate. Dudes you should have seen the look i gave erica the bartender LIKE DONT YOU SAY A f**IN WORD..LOL Thank god she got the hint. I told the OLDBAG id be right back.
Went back in the bar slammed my beer and was outta there LIKE A BAT OUTTA HELL.LOL...
Great now everyone at my local bar prob thinks im hooking up with old chicks on online dating sites :eek:

About online dating sites..That was back in my AFC days..Im done with them A True DJ should be able to get out there in the field and meet chicks. I did actually meet a couple HBS on a dating site who initiated contact with me but of course they ended up flaking out. Had i met them and real life i think i would had stood a better chance. i think the fact that you are using a dating site automatically lowers your value. Chicks like to look back on how you met with nostalgia. No chick is gonna reminisce about meeting you online.

Also no decent self respecting HB wants to tell her mother and father and close friends that the guy she is curently seeing she met on a dating site.
HBs dont need to do that

My 2 cents
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Hahaha, that is hilarious.

Here are my 2 cents.

Do not talk to OLDBAGS at all, or uglies.. They can't have you, period, don't even respond no matter what they say. It simply tells them that you aren't interested and that you are a REAL man..

You handle it good, no problems there. This does not decrease your image at all. You could have been talking with her because she had a cute face and you wanted her to hit the gym. Whatever.. Who cares..

Online dating is a real stuff.. You can be really successful at it.. Check out this guy, DJ from sosuave: http://www.plentyoffish.com/member4989442.htm

I see no problems with online dating. Because online dating is just setting up a meet and taking it from there. DD calls online dating wepons of mass seduction, I happen to agree.
 

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So the moral of the story is that if you start getting friendly with an OLDBAG instead of talking to her niece directly you can end up in embarrassing situations so it's best not to recognize the multiple bad moves you made and blame it on something else.

Gotcha... :rolleyes:
My 2 cents
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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rofl

Chicks like to look back on how you met with nostalgia. No chick is gonna reminisce about meeting you online.
hmm, that's a good point.
 

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I see nothing wrong with it. The only problem I see with online dating is if you do it exclusively. I say do what works for you, and try to "game" in both the real and online world. That way you have a balance.

One of my friends is pretty much engaged now to a girl he met online and she's moving to the city he lives in.
 

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POINTS

1) THE PROFILE DUDE FROM TORONTO HAS SEVERAL KEY POINTS MISSING, SORT OF LIKE HUGE GAPS IN PROFILES 101.

2) THE PICTURES DON'T DO HIM JUSTICE (tons of things he could do to further enhance the pics)

3) PROFILE ITSELF LACKS PIZZAZ

This is not indicative of a NET PICKUP ARTIST, though I am sure he does get a fair share of fan mail, but the format he chose, heck even the website, is of low frills.

Now allow me to address ONLINE DATING............if you DO know the secrets of profile writing, key words, the correct way to post pictures, and some other layout schematics YOU WILL reap a ton of women.

I do agree outsourcing via internet is the lazy way to meet someone. It really does nothing to test your approachig skills, does not build character,confidence, courage, or even small talk skills. In fact it increases your anti-social facade. There's somethng to be said to the men who can meet women on the fly WITHOUT thinking for hours/days of a clever cookie cutter profile. WOW what a concept.......no computers, no Instant messager, just relyig on your OWN charisma and seduction powers.

Want to know the difference between NET DATING AND FIELD APPROACHES...............when u do it live......IT FEELS LIKE A SUPER POWER.

There are pros and cons to each but I think most DJ/pick up artists will agree live approaches blow net dating away in the long run.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
So the moral of the story is that if you start getting friendly with an OLDBAG instead of talking to her niece directly you can end up in embarrassing situations so it's best not to recognize the multiple bad moves you made and blame it on something else.

Gotcha... :rolleyes:
My 2 cents
Or do like Milli Vanilli and blame it on the rain!
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
So the moral of the story is that if you start getting friendly with an OLDBAG instead of talking to her niece directly you can end up in embarrassing situations so it's best not to recognize the multiple bad moves you made and blame it on something else.

Gotcha... :rolleyes:
My 2 cents

LOL Francisco d'Anconia Like I said i was only on that site in my AFC days.
I only talked to the oldbag a couple times then i started ignoring her messages i think she must have sent me at least 20 messages that i didnt respond to kinda stalkerish to me lol. Anyways ill take some of the blame lesson learned the hard way.

And for those who wish to use dating sites Im not gonna knock them to each his own. but Ill give a quick example of why in the long run its a waste of time. I have a friend a chick who is about a HB8.4 who decided to try one of the dating sites i think singlesnet. After making a profile and putting a pic up mind you she is very attractive she would get 20 TO 30 EMAILS EVERY SINGLE DAY from different guys including from guys old enough to be her grandpa lol.Now if your a decent guy you have to hope she notices your message out of this swarm she gets everyday.Not to mention the 3 or 4 guys she met in person were either missing teeth ,looked way older than there pic or was just plan crazy. She promptly deleted her profile and vowed NEVER to try a dating site again.
Thats one of the problems the freaks and weridos ruin it for the normal guys.
Dont believe me..ask any HB you know whos tried online personals and i guarantee they will give a similar story

COD said:
I think most DJ/pick up artists will agree live approaches blow net dating away in the long run.
AMEN TO THAT
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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qstorm501 said:
LOL Francisco d'Anconia Like I said i was only on that site in my AFC days.
I only talked to the oldbag a couple times then i started ignoring her messages i think she must have sent me at least 20 messages that i didnt respond to kinda stalkerish to me lol. Anyways ill take some of the blame lesson learned the hard way.

And for those who wish to use dating sites Im not gonna knock them to each his own. but Ill give a quick example of why in the long run its a waste of time. I have a friend a chick who is about a HB8.4 who decided to try one of the dating sites i think singlesnet. After making a profile and putting a pic up mind you she is very attractive she would get 20 TO 30 EMAILS EVERY SINGLE DAY from different guys including from guys old enough to be her grandpa lol.Now if your a decent guy you have to hope she notices your message out of this swarm she gets everyday.Not to mention the 3 or 4 guys she met in person were either missing teeth ,looked way older than there pic or was just plan crazy. She promptly deleted her profile and vowed NEVER to try a dating site again.
Thats one of the problems the freaks and weridos ruin it for the normal guys.
Dont believe me..ask any HB you know whos tried online personals and i guarantee they will give a similar story



AMEN TO THAT
I don't know. Off the top of my head I end up going out with two or three women for each solid hour I spend on a dating site communicating with women. How many meeting can you set up in the amount of time that it takes you to have lunch.

As for your example, I'll agree that most guys online are socially inept trolls. Why do you think that a guy who knows what he's doing has an easier time online? His competition sucks! As long as you sarge like an AFC what do you expect to get online or off? Don't hate the game if you don't have the equipment to play.
 
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