“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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An unexpected benefit of OLD

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My core group of friends and I are all single, and we're all having a reasonable degree of success with online dating, which is in turn changing the way we socialise together. It's Friday afternoon and none of us have any burning desire to hit the bars - all of us had dates this week (admittedly not everyone is getting laid....yet).

Instead, I'm heading around to S's place soon for some co-op zombie blasting, and then afterwards I'm off to G's to drink lots of bourbon,eat BBQ, and listen to his band jam. I'll sneak back home on my Vespa around 12, properly buzzed, and having spent a measly $20. No exorbitant drink prices, no taxis, no new clothes, no dead end conversations with unavailable women. Minimum spend on a typical "night out" would be $150 (not including any new clothes) Remind me, again, why I go to bars at all?

So, as much as I do love rubbishing the more absurd elements of online dating, the one thing it can do very well, is keep you from having to do things like go to bars, take yoga/salsa classes, or God forbid, completely forced cold approaches during the day....ugh...I think I just threw up a little bit. Properly done, OLD will give you more time and money to do things you genuinely enjoy.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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A flawless plan except for the part where high demand women (the kind we actually want) have never, nor will ever use internet dating.

I guess if you've made peace with it and feel ok racking up the numbers with cluster B's , fatties, ex/practicing - carousellers and 3 different baby daddy mothers then it's not too bad of an existence for a modern man taking all things into consideration. ( Serious btw, if your having fun and just using it as a tool to throw a load off now and then it's probably a sweet deal you got going there compared to some of the alternatives.)
 

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Not too far off at all. What is it Ayn Rand said, "you can lead, follow, or get out of the way". I'm all for getting the hell out the way personally - I know my place and my potential, and it's not at the top of the food chain.

But to the extent that you can online, I've always favoured quality over quantity. I'll take a dry-spell over a slore every time. Boy have I had some dry spells - more than anything else those layoffs are a direct result of the lack of "quality" women online, i.e. nothing I'd consider worth working at. Found some new niches though, so the getting is good for now.

Surprised you didn't weigh in on the recent e-harmony thread actually. That place surprised me, there are a whole lot of women making all the right kinds of noises if you're any kind of traditionalist (which I'm not, but I don't dismiss those views completely). Of course, it's another thing entirely to walk the walk.

Quite serious - where and how do you get access the "high demand" women you're talking about?
 

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Wilko said:
Quite serious - where and how do you get access the "high demand" women you're talking about?
I can't tell you where, that would be like throwing a needle in a haystack and me telling you to go find it. Besides I think I got the last decent looking traditional one they had left in the West anyway, I've made no secret the numbers it took to actually find one (it's embarrassing to be honest, I'm talking hope for humanity lost kind of odds). Best advice I can give is to look at her father. That will cut out a good 90% of the sh!t ones. A strong, driven, traditional old school alpha type she adores, fears and respects = 9 times out of 10 your golden.

However, I can tell you where you won't find these women, and that's among the duck face ****s posing with their raspberry coolers on POF. My 2 cents.
 

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Wilko said:
Minimum spend on a typical "night out" would be $150 (not including any new clothes) Remind me, again, why I go to bars at all?
Exactly, the problem with going to the traditional watering holes to find b*tches is that there's a price for entry. OLD has none. And while yes, you won't find 8s through 10s online, and only occasionally a 7, if you're cheap and lazy like I am you can bang a bevy of 5s and 6s with no trouble. And you'll likely be a hero in her eyes just because you don't f*ck her friends (unless of course you do ;) )

I've spent the last decade OLDing. Actually it's been like 10 years 2 months or so. I've banged about 3 dozen chicks in that time, ranging from 4 to (one) 8. Mostly 6s. Had a dozen relationships in that time too, most overlapping. Never dated only one woman at a time. It's been an interesting experience and the sheer abundance of p*ssy is quite liberating. But it is a bit of a crutch. It's made me lazy. If a chick doesn't bone down on the first date there is no second. And in fact, I've gotten to the point where if the woman doesn't talk dirty over email and make it clear she's DTF right away, I won't even bother going out once with her.

So OLD is IMHO like fast food. It's cheap, it's easy, it's abundant, and if you get used to it you can convince yourself that it's tasty. But you don't really have to step up to the plate and hit home runs to score. In that way I think it's detrimental to your game. However, I'm down the rabbit hole and I ain't ever coming up, so I guess I can't really judge. Of course I'm the kind of guy who prefers quantity to quality. There's just something about waking up one morning after boning some chick, saying "see ya later" and then going over to another chick's place and boning her. And then the next boning a different girl. I've been with 8s and even a 9 when I was young and I got sick of f*cking them. I like the variety, even if they're not my dream girls.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I'm talking hope for humanity lost kind of odds). Best advice I can give is to look at her father. That will cut out a good 90% of the sh!t ones. A strong, driven, traditional old school alpha type she adores, fears and respects = 9 times out of 10 your golden.

However, I can tell you where you won't find these women, and that's among the duck face ****s posing with their raspberry coolers on POF. My 2 cents.
I will definitely keep the "fatherly advice" up my sleeve if I ever find myself wanting to wife someone up, sounds pretty reasonable.

Preaching to the choir in so far as PoF is concerned, I have a profile, but all of my lays and short term relationships come from other sites (some mainstream, some niche, none quite as outright trashy as PoF).
 
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