an honest women writes about nice guys!

[jonwon]

This is a post found on the net, i wont out the source, this is AMY's take on nice guys, enjoy.


Let's define some terms first. You may not agree with these definitions, but I'm going to use them for this rant anyway.
Jerk: Someone who screws you, then unceremoniously dumps you or, while feigning a relationship with you, screws around on you behind your back.
Nice guy: Someone who wants to date you, then marry you. Would never cheat on you. Optional: thinks you're just the greatest thing that ever lived.
Nice girl: Someone who wants to be dated and married. Would never cheat on her spouse. Optional: thinks her boyfriend/spouse is just the best guy in the world.
OK. Why I don't date nice guys:
No, it's not because jerks are inherently more interesting. Usually they're shallow twits.
No, it's not because I'm a masochist.
No, it's not because I have subconscious fears of a "real relationship."
It's because I'm really not a "nice girl". Now, you'd never take me for a Sharon Stone ice-***** type. I'm certainly capable of being polite and generous to my friends and family, but:
I have a caustic, dark sense of humor completely lost on the average nice guy. Some of the things I think could never be uttered in such a guy's presence. Kinda indicates that my mind works in different ways, no?
I've had a lot of different experiences based on what I felt like doing at the time. Not all of those experiences are things that "nice girls" do. I'm not ashamed of them and I wouldn't be the person I am today without them. The "nice guys" I meet just haven't been where I've been. Either they haven't lived that much, or they have hard- luck stories as a result of their forays into unexplored territory. I'm not interested.
"Nice guys," when presented to you on a silver platter by a friend or other well-meaning person, tend not to be very attractive. But hey, they'll treat you right! Too bad. I won't date or bed a guy I don't find attractive. And no, a guy doesn't have to be gorgeous for me to find him attractive. He just has to have lived and have some sensuality about him.
The words "give him a chance," to me, are the beginning of suicide of the soul. Men are never told to do that. I want what I want, just like men have always had the right to do, and I will get it or remain celibate and unattached.
I don't act like a "nice girl." I don't smile sweetly, keep the conversation going, feign interest in boring topics, or do any of the other things that the nice girls do. If someone's being a fool, I look at him funny or I excuse myself to talk to someone more intelligent. As a result of my forthrightness, men approach me and in many cases are forthright about what they want from the outset. I can take it or leave it; it's not intended as an insult. The "nice guys" stay with the sweet, cheery girls, where it's safe. The not-so- nice ones, the curious, the adventuresome, and the restless, look for something different. Sometimes they find me.
In short: I like men who remind me of myself. They're complex, difficult, unpredictable at times. It's hard to stay with them. And no, they haven't been classic "jerks." It's just not that simple.
Can a woman find "true love" (what the hell is that) with anyone other than a "nice guy?" I don't know what true love is, if anyone thinks they know, clue us in, please. But she may have a damn good time. No, it probably won't be a 50-year marriage with 5 kids and 20 grandkids. It might not even last a month. But those brief moments may be more fulfilling than years of purported domestic bliss with a fenced-in yard and a fenced-in spouse.



"A man is likely to mind his own business if it is worth minding." -- Eric Hoffer, The True Believer

 

[2c2bt]

I consider myself a nice guy.
I consider girls that have to put others down and have a certain "caustic" sense of humor to be problematic, and plain find such qualities unattractive. Too bad many of these girls are really hot. I wouldn't mind screwing them because they are hot, but I do not really like this type of girl as a person. They do nothing good for anybody but themselves or not even themselves.

I am friendly, cute, happy, and super intelligent. I have been homeless, lived in the streets, and had lots of really crappy experiences of street life that have hurt me alot in life. Yet, I manage not to be a scumbag jerk type that believes in havig girls on the side when in a steady relationship. I don't mind sleeping with different girls, but wheenever I am in a stead relationship with a girl, I do not cheat on her. If I want to sleep with other girls, I simply break up.

 

[jonwon]

I consider myself a nice guy.
I consider girls that have to put others down and have a certain "caustic" sense of humor to be problematic, and plain find such qualities unattractive. Too bad many of these girls are really hot. I wouldn't mind screwing them because they are hot, but I do not really like this type of girl as a person. They do nothing good for anybody but themselves or not even themselves.

I am friendly, cute, happy, and super intelligent. I have been homeless, lived in the streets, and had lots of really crappy experiences of street life that have hurt me alot in life. Yet, I manage not to be a scumbag jerk type that believes in havig girls on the side when in a steady relationship. I don't mind sleeping with different girls, but wheenever I am in a stead relationship with a girl, I do not cheat on her. If I want to sleep with other girls, I simply break up.

mm intresting tell you what i will post one last thing, let me find it, i will make a new thread for it in this section, may get your thinking more ok, give me 5mins.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?p=945690#post945690
go here^^

 

[Mr_knowit_all]

Girls like the one that wrote the post are amusing. On one hand, they admit they're "jerks" too, and therefore couldn't possibly put up with a nice guy.

The problem with a lot of women is that they confuse "nice" with "weak". Because a man has manners, and is respectful, that doesn't mean he doesn't have a backbone. On several occassions I've run into women like this. You treat them with respect, and they start coping an attitude. I simply tell them that I won't tolerate their BS and walk away.

It seems to me some women seek out problems, and then whine about the problem.

She thinks these brief snippets of true romance will fulfill her more than a long stable relationship? I have news for her, while the nice guy grows old with a nice lady who loves him, has kids, and a fulfilling life, this idiot will be the centerfold in "Old Maid" magazine. I say let the snotty beotchs date all the caustic men they want. Leaves more of the good women for us.

 

[Jariel]

The problem with a lot of women is that they confuse "nice" with "weak". Because a man has manners, and is respectful, that doesn't mean he doesn't have a backbone.

I totally agree!

It seems to me some women seek out problems, and then whine about the problem.

Agree with this too!

I have news for her, while the nice guy grows old with a nice lady who loves him, has kids, and a fulfilling life, this idiot will be the centerfold in "Old Maid" magazine. I say let the snotty beotchs date all the caustic men they want. Leaves more of the good women for us.

And this!

I know a number of women like this and despite some of them being very hot to look at, I refuse to date them based on their drama-craving attitudes alone.

 

[nonchalant]

it would be fun focking and dumping this woman

 

[DarthJuan]

"nice" with "weak". Because a man has manners, and is respectful, that doesn't mean he doesn't have a backbone.

One chick I was out with got all pissy, and told me not to apologize for us needing more time to order some food. She gave me this look and attitude like I was some little wuss...She said something like: "Don't apologize. That's his job...we can take as long as we want to order."

I'm a world class a-hole at times...but I was raised to have basic manners and courtesy.

Having worked in the food service industry before, I tend to go the extra mile in being curteous and compensating well for good service. Because I know how shytty people can treat and look down at you at times. Besides, who wants to have the cooks or wait staff spitting in your food.

Yah, some chicks have a screwy idea that rudeness equals power...and can sometimes view common courtesy as weakness.

They want a gentlemen and raconteur one moment, a jerk three minutes later, a dashing rogue tomorrow, an a-hole ten minutes ago. Women can be such whack jobs. It's like being a weatherman, you can learn to get a general idea of what's coming...but you never really know for sure. Sometimes you just gotta go for the high percentage play. And that tends to be the more jerk-ish route. :-/

 

[jonwon]

I think what this piece shows is different attitudes girls can adopt, we automatically assume this girl is beautiful, why is that, she maybe a pig!

The fact remains, this girls knows what she wants out of life and she is not excusing her behaviour to please you, me or anyone.

She comes across as rude, I see it has coming across and blatantly honest, with out skitting around the ideals what have been built up on women. Now she has a take on the nice guy and the jerk, she flavours none, what she is saying is she is after a man that knows what he wants and is not put off by her issues, he overlooks them or even penetrates them.

I have had experience with girls like this, they seem to be hard nut cases who don’t care about the world, but get them to a certain lvl they are as loyal and as charming as any girl you can meet, a lot of it a projection to the world she wants and in that nice guys don’t cut it since they will never understand a girl like this, they assume the negative stuff, just like a lot of you have.

Me I see potential, I now know how this girl thinks and ticks, this has given me a better understanding of this type of women and has one of you guys put it.

I would screw her and get out of it what I could, but in all honesty is that comment any worse then what she wrote, double standards maybe?

Why is she seen has beautiful from that thread?

 

[d9930380]

Your missing the point guys. Don't try and apply your logic to these girls, you can't, they see the world completely different than you do. It's the same for good looking guy jerks.

Look as she said most nice guys aren't attractive. Nice guys have had a life time of being/feeling inferior, therefore they empathise more with other people's emotions because they've been on the receiving end. Good looking people haven't, they don't REALLY know what it's like to look at the mirror and feel depressed or to wonder if your ever going to get a girl etc, they don't know how much jokes about it CAN hurt. Nice guys also don't stand up for themselves because they've got soo much more insecurities that the other person could use. They're submissive.

Good looking people are insensitive but they can also be VERY funny AND confident, I hate to say it because they don't give a ****. Therefore nice guys can be boring, safe, unfunny unless it's dry and then it just masks more insecurities.

The problem I have with this site, is it's all about getting Nice Guys (even if they pretend they aren't to the girl) hot looking girls. Most of these girls, a nice guy wouldn't be able to handle and therefore will never be happy nomatter how fit they are.

Look at it this way, assume this girl is hot, now you know what she wants and that tells you about her character. Would you want her?

...... I know, offcourse you would - THAT'S THE PROBLEM

Maybe we should start applying our own tests the way chicks do, to weed out these types of girls.