"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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An encounter.

I'm Charming

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For a small encounter this is very in depth, I tend not to skirt round these things, maybe I've over-analysed in places.

I was on a social networking site earlier, and I had this brief encounter, I know the general rules are that you dont attempt to pick up girls on such sites, but I was only playing around to practice my newly learnt DJ tricks - playful chat without any reprocusions.

I appreciate constructive criticism on how to improve my game in general here, its very welcome :up:

Anyway, random girl adds me out of the blue, I'd seen her profile before - she had been talking to one of my friends who had been all over her, messaging her every 30 seconds. I figure what the hell and accept - from her picture I could see she's about a HB7 - a cute girl.

She was online but had obviously decided not to initiate conversation with me, I'm not aware if this was my first bad move but I decided to keep the whole thing friendly and cheerful and take control of the situation, I gave her a comment showing my confidence and asking her how she was.

She replies and asks the same question back, I follow through with a short reply asking her why she decided to add me. She pounced back with a bit of wry wit at this point saying that she "found my profile on a link from a gay porn site" before conceeding that she'd added me out of the blue from my friends pages.

I laughed this off with a bit of C + F and said that obviously I was such a catch to both sexes, I noticed that she was obviously quite confident of her control over guys such as me and so also added in a teasing neghit about her "emo hair" :p

At this point she started showing her interest in me, I was obviously no wallflower compared to my AFC friend - who as soon as I had replied about her emo hair had said that he 'liked it', she asked me if I had msn, to which I replied: "Do I have msn? Yerrr, I do :D " she replies that I should give her my addy, I come back with "Only if you ask me extra nicely with cherries on top" :p

At this point she changed tact, and instead of trying to insult me began to qualify herself to me "I'm really nice, honest" "*Sigh* Please Xx"

I countered with "Actually, we'll do a deal, you give me yours and I might add you the next time I'm on" - I was still very much in control at this point I reckoned. She refuses - sad faces all round, I still dont go for the sympathy vote though and plow on "Your loss, come back if you change your mind :)" - I realise this might have signified interest and maybe I should have dropped it here.

She says its my loss actually and ":crackup:"

At this point I got a bit insecure and realised her Msn address was at the top of the page, I mentioned this and acted like I knew about that anyway - maybe she realised at this point that I'd tricked her into qualifying for me instead of the other way round.

She goes back to try and insult - calling me a stalker at which point I said that she was the one trying to get MY msn address ;)

She replies "not anymore"

and finally I put in my last comment "Tell you what, here is my address <Address here>. Now you've said that, I DARE you not to add me :D"

The reply is "Ok, I won't".

At this point I logged out, going offline - deciding not to indulge her any more - if I've kept myself such a charming mystery, she's sure to come to me right?

I've placed a small bet with another friend that she will eventually give in and add me on msn, but she's stuborn and I dont know if I had the upper hand at the end there. :D

Any conclusions from you master DJ's?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I'd have rewarded her with it when she started qualifying herself "I'm really nice etc." There has to be some give and take with these things or there's nothing in it for her. And why keep playing games when they don't need to be played? Yes there's a place for showing masculine dominance in an interaction but you already did that. To carry on shows you have something to prove. Its a case of being the truly rich man who doesn't need to deliberately show off about his wealth because its not a big deal to him.
 

I'm Charming

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Righto, I thought that might have been my mistake actually. At that point I was 50/50 as to whether to give her my addy or to continue on, unfortunately the latter category probably wasnt as good a choice on my part as the former would have been :p
 
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