An Alpha male would not hate women.

[JaegerPilot217]

so yeah, basically women don't need to have a life of their own, don't need to have their own hobbies, interests, friends in order to get a boyfriend or get laid, eventhough most desirable women do have a life like that while they are single, it usually does not matter to most guys if she has a life of her own or not, like for us guys it is not really an attraction trigger, but for us guys we have to have a life of our own while single in order to attract women

 

[PlayHer Man]

so yeah, basically women don't need to have a life of their own, don't need to have their own hobbies, interests, friends in order to get a boyfriend or get laid, eventhough most desirable women do have a life like that while they are single, it usually does not matter to most guys if she has a life of her own or not, like for us guys it is not really an attraction trigger, but for us guys we have to have a life of our own while single in order to attract women

The only thing a man NEEDS to attract women is something she wants:

-Status
-Good genes for her kids
-Money
-Fame
-Power

Women want WINNERS. She literally stands at the finish line of every part of life (looks, fame, status, strength, etc) and just waits there with her legs open for the first man to cross.

PER EXAMPLE --> Lets say a woman likes strong men. She will walk up to a group of strong men and pick the strongest to sleep with. If the strongest in the group is not interested.. she will choose the second strongest.. and so on and so forth.

This is how women choose partners in ALL SITUATIONS. They start with the best possible.. then move down the line until someone shows interest. She will flirt with Dwayne Johnson... If he ignores her she will flirt with Chaning Tatum. If he ignores her she will flirt with Matt Damon. If he ignores her she will flirt with Steve Carell. If he ignores her she will flirt with Jason Biggs, etc, etc, etc.

The sexist man is the best winner she can attract.

The deepest thing about women is how shallow they are. :crackup:

 

[Darth]

Agreed that hating anybody is always the wrong approach. Love>hate.

 

[backbreaker]

Thing is something I struggled with, **** honestly, probably until I met my wife.


I was scared for life so to speak. There are some things that went on in my teens when I wasn't a catch, when I was trying to make something of myself, that I learned to deal with, but never really forgot. From little **** to having people have a conventioneer and pretend you aren't here, to a girl in a group asking for everyone's phone number to keep in touch with them.. except you lol. To being laughed at behind your back, to being laughed at to your face.

It wasn't even about hate. I became num. It wasn't even about.. hate. I lost respect for women. Really men too. But definitely women. I am a pretty nice guy, I"m a pretty good dude in real life and to treat me like **** just because you don't want to **** me lol. That's a low of low. It taught me just how superficial society really was. I mean, i could even understnad chicks saying you are such a cool guy, but you know i'm not attracted to you like that but we can hang out. If you aren't attractive to women you are the scum of the earth, regardless of what you are doing or are trying to do. Women for the most part, equate their entire thought process to you in regards to how much of a catch they think you are.

It's like the old joke when I say I want a guy who is charming and funny what I am really saying is i want a man like Hugh Grant lol.

Anyway, when I lost weight, started to make some money, started to get in shape, started to take care of myself and the female attention came, I was honestly a pretty bitter dude. I wasn't a chump anymore but in reality I really wasn't any better than I was. I was a true jerk. I was a nice jerk. I wasn't mean, but I was a jerk. I had no real feelings for anyone but me. And I felt justifed in this thought process; as bad as I was treated by everyone i met, **** everybody lol. I'm going to do me. Whatever I want I'm going to do and **** the consequences, **** your feelings, **** everything.


When I met my wife and after a few months of dating she saw some of my "fat pictures" and she was like well i would not have given you a second thought if you still looked lke that lol. And she was like, that's just the way it is babe. That's life. She made a good opint in the sense that, all those years, I could have gotten laid. I could have gotten laid quite easily. I just could not have gotten laid by the quality of women I desired to have sex with.

My REAL problem if i sat down and thought about it, is I was accumulated to having sex with a certain caliber of women and because of events in my life that were transpiring, I wasn't getting that now. I wasn't on the physsical level I was on in high school and girls weren't responding to me like they used to. I could have taken it down a notch and gotten laid but I stayed single.


My point being, being hateful towards women means you aren't being honest with yourself. And until you aren't honest with yourself, you aren't going anywhere. you can't address a problem until you know what the problem is in the first place.

women are flaking on you, women are disrespecting you, because they aren't attracted to you. The simple answer is to find women who ARE attracted to you or become more attractive

 

[Solomon]

Anyway, when I lost weight, started to make some money, started to get in shape, started to take care of myself and the female attention came, I was honestly a pretty bitter dude. I wasn't a chump anymore but in reality I really wasn't any better than I was. I was a true jerk. I was a nice jerk. I wasn't mean, but I was a jerk. I had no real feelings for anyone but me. And I felt justifed in this thought process; as bad as I was treated by everyone i met, **** everybody lol. I'm going to do me. Whatever I want I'm going to do and **** the consequences, **** your feelings, **** everything.


When I met my wife and after a few months of dating she saw some of my "fat pictures" and she was like well i would not have given you a second thought if you still looked lke that lol. And she was like, that's just the way it is babe. That's life. She made a good opint in the sense that, all those years, I could have gotten laid. I could have gotten laid quite easily. I just could not have gotten laid by the quality of women I desired to have sex with.

My REAL problem if i sat down and thought about it, is I was accumulated to having sex with a certain caliber of women and because of events in my life that were transpiring, I wasn't getting that now. I wasn't on the physsical level I was on in high school and girls weren't responding to me like they used to. I could have taken it down a notch and gotten laid but I stayed single.


My point being, being hateful towards women means you aren't being honest with yourself. And until you aren't honest with yourself, you aren't going anywhere. you can't address a problem until you know what the problem is in the first place.

women are flaking on you, women are disrespecting you, because they aren't attracted to you. The simple answer is to find women who ARE attracted to you or become more attractive

This is why, I'm in the gym

Great drop BB

 

[Driggs]

Alphas and natural don juans tend to be pretty contemptuous of women. There is also the kind who loves women, just doesn't form attachments but that isn't really Don Juan. Of course the sense of the term in use here on SS is different from either the historical Don Juan or the colloquial use.

 

[PlayHer Man]

Alphas and natural don juans tend to be pretty contemptuous of women. There is also the kind who loves women, just doesn't form attachments but that isn't really Don Juan. Of course the sense of the term I use here is different from either the historical Don Juan or the colloquial use.

This is true. Most men I know who get a lot of women or have alpha status don't have a very high opinion of woman.

Most men who have a high opinion of women are beta fags who place them on a pedestal.

 

[Driggs]

I think that having a high opinion of women is detrimental to game.

Is it possible that contempt for women is what CAUSES players to be successful?

Personally I am just beyond fed up with their behavior. I have had PUA skill for years which has allowed me to lay women who I couldn't hold onto. This latest bout of misery has changed my attitude about them entirely. Something snapped.

I can already tell that the feeling of contempt has allowed me to move on without much care.

 

[Driggs]

Erk! Doublepost

 

[BeDJ]

I think that having a high opinion of women is detrimental to game.

Is it possible that contempt for women is what CAUSES players to be successful?

Personally I am just beyond fed up with their behavior. I have had PUA skill for years which has allowed me to lay women who I couldn't hold onto. This latest bout of misery has changed my attitude about them entirely. Something snapped.

I can already tell that the feeling of contempt has allowed me to move on without much care.

Similar to canines, the younger the woman, the easier to train her. Once she has been exposed to bad behavior, it's difficult to discipline her.

Most men out there, PUA's included, are improving themselves to get women at the end of the day - whether it is tangible or intangible attributes. They are a slave to women and in being so, women have the perceived superiority over most men, thus their bad behaviors are almost always excused. The PUA mindset is The World is in Chaos, Let's Start Looting! Most men, myself included, choose this route because it's easy and simple plus white knights and guys that complain they can't get women piss me off to no end. Spinning plates and seduction goes along this route. You develop your game in order to spin more plates and seduce more women.

So how do we change this? How do we change women's bad behavior and bring society back to where it used to be? Beats me, I highly doubt anything will change in my lifetime. Spreading awareness is a start, but how effective is it when we are competing for notch count and hottest broads at the same time?

 

[HyperAnalyze]

Women will always be be women. They are the only mammals that can literally grow stronger as time goes on in this day and age. They have most of the power when it comes to pick up and unless %90 of males completely go alpha nothing is going to change. There will always be beta males to supplicant their lives and there's nothing we can do to change that.

What you can do however is be the best version of yourself as you can. Alpha males know and understand the nature of women so they do not get mad when they blow them off or don't answer their calls.

 

[Darth]

Oh, come on. This is just BS. People who hold a high opinion of PEOPLE (men and women) succeed at life. We win. You guys who are bitter about everything lose.

People who place a high value on other people are the kinds of people other people want to be around.

You don't think people can sense it if you don't really like them? They can.

This is key to making friends, key to a happy relationship and marriage, and key to life.

I know which camp I'm happy in.

 

[Driggs]

Wouldn't it be nice if that stuff was actually true?

Machiavellianism, looking out for Número Uno and the Dark Triad personality traits (well, machiavellianism is one of them) are the hallmarks of the truly successful in all walks of life and you know that.

You don't think people can sense it if you don't really like them? They can.

Yes, they view it as weakness. Liking them, that is.

A very successful method of learning is to reverse engineer the methods and even the mindsets of experts in a field. The experts at pickup are said by women to be douchebags. That's because they are contemptuous of women and treat them accordingly.

 

[Darth]

Wouldn't it be nice if that stuff was actually true?

Machiavellianism, looking out for Número Uno and the Dark Triad personality traits (well, machiavellianism is one of them) are the hallmarks of the truly successful in all walks of life and you know that.


Yes, they view it as weakness.

A very successful method of learning is to reverse engineer the methods and even the mindsets of experts in a field. The experts at pickup are said by women to be douchebags. That's because they are contemptuous of women and treat them accordingly.

LOL at experts in pickup. They have to actually pick women up. Women pick me up. I am an "alpha" of which you speak, if you like that term. So I know that what is being said here is utter bullsh!t.

Now you can do the smart thing and listen to me, or you can be a miserable angry old fart who never gets anywhere in life and has nobody to love him in his dying days. Which is it gonna be, hotshot?

 

[Driggs]

Try again after your beard comes in, hotshot.

 

[Darth]

You know what? Good idea.

See ya.

 

[Driggs]

Don't leave over that, for fvcks sake. I was just pointing out that a lot of the naturals seem to hold women in very low regard. I think that may be part of the reason for their success over guys who pedestalize.

 

[BeDJ]

Wouldn't it be nice if that stuff was actually true?

Machiavellianism, looking out for Número Uno and the Dark Triad personality traits (well, machiavellianism is one of them) are the hallmarks of the truly successful in all walks of life and you know that.


Yes, they view it as weakness. Liking them, that is.

A very successful method of learning is to reverse engineer the methods and even the mindsets of experts in a field. The experts at pickup are said by women to be douchebags. That's because they are contemptuous of women and treat them accordingly.

Driggs,

I understand where you are coming from. Are Machiavellianism and Dark Triad traits you truly want to develop for yourself? Yes, those methods work, but do you want to have those attitudes and personalities to seduce women?

With that thought in mind, anyone here can be a drug dealer, dispense free drugs to chicks and get laid. To me, you are changing who you are to get pvssy. I think that is the highest form of pvssy pedestalization.

You're asking....I'm not getting laid right now, if I change who I am to get laid - What. Is. The. Problem????

Self-worth
Self-respect
Self-confidence

You don't change who you are to get laid. You don't compromise your values and morals to get laid. Why aren't you calling a prostitute right now? That is because it compromises the three things I have listed above. Doesn't paying to get laid seem better than changing who you are...who you've always been, simply to have sex?

Fvck, women come and go. Look in the mirror. That fvcker staring back at you is there forever. Accept it.

If you have made it this far in my post, thanks for reading. Draw an imaginary line and separate it with "Strength" and Weaknesses" Go ahead and list them.

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I guarantee you that there are more items in the weaknesses* column than strengths. Screw everyone that says "focus on your strengths," focus on your weaknesses because you have already admitted to yourself that you are lacking in that attribute/category/characteristic. That is the most truthful you are to yourself. Improve it.

*Disclaimer - If you listed "Ugly" as your weakness, there is absolutely nothing I can offer, except my sympathy. I'm terribly sorry.

 

[Driggs]

Are Machiavellianism and Dark Triad traits you truly want to develop for yourself? Yes, those methods work

What do you mean, develop them?

One thing I'm not is a narcissist. I have to work on that one.

 

[JaegerPilot217]

Thing is something I struggled with, **** honestly, probably until I met my wife.


I was scared for life so to speak. There are some things that went on in my teens when I wasn't a catch, when I was trying to make something of myself, that I learned to deal with, but never really forgot. From little **** to having people have a conventioneer and pretend you aren't here, to a girl in a group asking for everyone's phone number to keep in touch with them.. except you lol. To being laughed at behind your back, to being laughed at to your face.

It wasn't even about hate. I became num. It wasn't even about.. hate. I lost respect for women. Really men too. But definitely women. I am a pretty nice guy, I"m a pretty good dude in real life and to treat me like **** just because you don't want to **** me lol. That's a low of low. It taught me just how superficial society really was. I mean, i could even understnad chicks saying you are such a cool guy, but you know i'm not attracted to you like that but we can hang out. If you aren't attractive to women you are the scum of the earth, regardless of what you are doing or are trying to do. Women for the most part, equate their entire thought process to you in regards to how much of a catch they think you are.

It's like the old joke when I say I want a guy who is charming and funny what I am really saying is i want a man like Hugh Grant lol.

Anyway, when I lost weight, started to make some money, started to get in shape, started to take care of myself and the female attention came, I was honestly a pretty bitter dude. I wasn't a chump anymore but in reality I really wasn't any better than I was. I was a true jerk. I was a nice jerk. I wasn't mean, but I was a jerk. I had no real feelings for anyone but me. And I felt justifed in this thought process; as bad as I was treated by everyone i met, **** everybody lol. I'm going to do me. Whatever I want I'm going to do and **** the consequences, **** your feelings, **** everything.


When I met my wife and after a few months of dating she saw some of my "fat pictures" and she was like well i would not have given you a second thought if you still looked lke that lol. And she was like, that's just the way it is babe. That's life. She made a good opint in the sense that, all those years, I could have gotten laid. I could have gotten laid quite easily. I just could not have gotten laid by the quality of women I desired to have sex with.

My REAL problem if i sat down and thought about it, is I was accumulated to having sex with a certain caliber of women and because of events in my life that were transpiring, I wasn't getting that now. I wasn't on the physsical level I was on in high school and girls weren't responding to me like they used to. I could have taken it down a notch and gotten laid but I stayed single.


My point being, being hateful towards women means you aren't being honest with yourself. And until you aren't honest with yourself, you aren't going anywhere. you can't address a problem until you know what the problem is in the first place.

women are flaking on you, women are disrespecting you, because they aren't attracted to you. The simple answer is to find women who ARE attracted to you or become more attractive

When did you meet your girlfriend who became your wife? When did you get your first girlfriend? But yeah as to what PlayerHerMan said, basically women usually want men who are an overall better person than they are