"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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American Idol

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I was watching American Idol last night (yeah, yeah, I know) and there was a guy on there, didn't sing particularly well, but wasn't horrible awful like some of the joke contestants either. Anyway, here's the point:

The two female judges told him that he was too confident. Kara DiGuardia told him that he was a guy who would benefit from being less confident, that he came across as ****y, and described his entrance as a "strut". Victoria Beckham told him that he made her itchy because he was too confident.

Now I didn't really notice if he was overly confident or not, he just seemed like another audition to me. But the point is, I thought women liked confident, ****y guys. Why did this guy get such a negative reaction. Part of his backstory was he was a football player (in college I think it was), a long snapper. Maybe the girls saw this and expected a football player to be ****y? Maybe they had some boyfriend trouble with a jock at one time and took it out on this guy? Could they have actually liked his confidence but said they didn't (they all voted no on him)?

All you see on this forum (and other dating sites) is confidence, confidence, confidence. Yet these women seemed to react negatively to it. What's going on here?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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zekko said:
I was watching American Idol last night (yeah, yeah, I know) and there was a guy on there, didn't sing particularly well, but wasn't horrible awful like some of the joke contestants either. Anyway, here's the point:

The two female judges told him that he was too confident. Kara DiGuardia told him that he was a guy who would benefit from being less confident, that he came across as ****y, and described his entrance as a "strut". Victoria Beckham told him that he made her itchy because he was too confident.

Now I didn't really notice if he was overly confident or not, he just seemed like another audition to me. But the point is, I thought women liked confident, ****y guys. Why did this guy get such a negative reaction. Part of his backstory was he was a football player (in college I think it was), a long snapper. Maybe the girls saw this and expected a football player to be ****y? Maybe they had some boyfriend trouble with a jock at one time and took it out on this guy? Could they have actually liked his confidence but said they didn't (they all voted no on him)?

All you see on this forum (and other dating sites) is confidence, confidence, confidence. Yet these women seemed to react negatively to it. What's going on here?
Not to be obvious, but you're taking one guy on a TV show and trying to draw a relation to ALL women.

Okay, this one guy on TV was deemed "too confident" by women...on TV.

In life, you'll find that some women will not like your confidence. It doesn't matter, because MOST will. Confidence is not a negative thing. Just because 1 out of every 10 women you meet don't like your confidence doesn't mean it's a bad thing. Some people will be intimidated. Some girls just want a weak man to do their bidding. But evolution, history, genetics...whatever you want to call it....favors a confident man.
 

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I think the problem with the guy on Idol was that he was not just confident, but ****y. I think there is a difference between the two.
 

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I think the problem with the guy on Idol was that he was not just confident, but ****y. I think there is a difference between the two.
Okay, but what about all the suggestions to use ****y/funny lines to tease women? I know it's important to throw the funny in there, but there's a definite implication that women are attracted to men that are ****y.
 

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zekko said:
Okay, but what about all the suggestions to use ****y/funny lines to tease women? I know it's important to throw the funny in there, but there's a definite implication that women are attracted to men that are ****y.

read this..

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=134611


its not so much the '****y" that the women are attracted to, IMO. its the fact that there is a confusion on your intentions. it draws a mystery to what your expectations are to an extent.

and i didnt see this american idol guy, but i can almost gaurantee that it was him being "****y", IMO, that is what "too confident" simply means.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Women say lots of things which are contradictory- I think that those two women were getting a little 'gina tingle from that guy and were uncomfortable about their emotional reactions to someone who they were "judging ".
Denial is a curious thing.
 

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I was watching it last night too.

The football player was god awful and creepy. He couldn't sing.

If he acted normal and had a good voice the judges would have liked him. You're giving him way too much credit. Too much confidence wasn't his problem.

Anyone who watched the show last night would know the guy was a clown.
 

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Women say lots of things which are contradictory
Funny you responded, Jophil. I was thinking of you when I wrote the original post, since you seem to put out an intentionally ****y vibe.
Your theory is possible. I still think maybe they had a bad run in with a football player when they were in school, so they took it out on this guy. I still think women will (generally) respond well to being ****y. That's why they're attracted to jerks after all, right?

The football player was god awful and creepy. He couldn't sing.
I agree he wasn't a very good singer. What I found strange was why they started dumping on him for being confident. And note, it was only the girls who were talking about him being too confident, not the guys. I didn't notice it, and apparently neither did the male judges. Women must have a radar for that sort of thing.
 

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zekko said:
And note, it was only the girls who were talking about him being too confident, not the guys. I didn't notice it, and apparently neither did the male judges. Women must have a radar for that sort of thing.
Interesting...

Their objections to his 'excessive confidence' is indeed mysterious - why did they take exception to his 'strut' when they were there to evaluate his singing skills.


Perhaps it was one of these situations -- A woman in a bar declares a dislike for "that jerk/playa over there" ( referring to the confident guy in the corner chatting up three women all of whom are bug-eyed)
Strangely, that same woman who vowed her revulsion for "that jerk" is often seen chatting to him and even dancing with him later in the evening.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Because there are no rules. Look around you. Every kind of guy gets women. Nerds, jerks, closet homo's, beautiful men, ugly men, fat men, thin men, long men, short men...everybody. One girl likes an inconfident boy and talks about him likes he's the man. Another girl is disgusted by this wimp and only spreads her legs for guys like Arnold Schwarznegger. That's life.
 

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J. Darko said:
Because there are no rules. Look around you. Every kind of guy gets women. Nerds, jerks, closet homo's, beautiful men, ugly men, fat men, thin men, long men, short men...everybody. One girl likes an inconfident boy and talks about him likes he's the man. Another girl is disgusted by this wimp and only spreads her legs for guys like Arnold Schwarznegger. That's life.
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