"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Am I on a short leash?

ProtoMan1

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joekerr31 said:
when a mature healthy chic likes you she does not let you know she likes you by ignoring you!

be careful how you are reading her actions here. you sound like you've almost got oneitis. the more she treats you badly the more you somehow think she likes you.
I hear you loud and clear. I only ask because before we were flirting, touching, having lunch together, laughing together, etc. And I have told her that I'd take her out and find something to do with her.

I have NOT yet, and believe that this is the reason why she is giving me the cold shoulder. I'm seeing it as her way of letting me know she is pissed at me because I haven't done anything yet. I believe (thinks) that she likes me, otherwise why would she treat me way and nice to everyone else? hehehe.

But I understand that if a woman is interested she will let you know, but at some point, women let guys know that whey they are pissed at you, its because of you. I'm not thinking that the more badly she treats me she likes me more, I believe its that she is mad because I haven't asked her out.

When I talked on the phone with her I just asked, how you are doing type questions. Of course she gave short answers but seemed glad that I called and said something about getting together. So I think the only solution here is to take you guys' advice and somehow ask her out because I think that is the cause of all this female grief she is giving me. :)
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Mr.Positive

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jophil28 said:
Everytime that a man reacts to a woman's emotional state, he enters her frame - and because it a frame of HER design, you are not in control ,she is.
Top notch advise Jophil28. This little nugget of wisdom needs to be emphasized, re-read, and burned into the brain.

'Reacting' to a woman's emotional state is akin to putting your head directly on the chopping block. Nothing good can come out of reacting.

Either ignore this woman's manipulating behavior, or reframe it and take a proactive approach and lead.
 
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