"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Am I in the friendzone?

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Update

Alright so I said I would update this when I had news. Alright so as some of you predicted she cancelled on me with a really fishy excuse which basically pissed me off lol. I was basically almost done with her but then we ended up rescheduling to meet up for coffee yesterday and I switched the coffee hangout to a walk around the park lol, which she agreed to.

Anyways so I met up with her yesterday and I did a lot of kino making sure I touched her a decent, threw a couple of snowballs at her lol, while we chatted for abit, we hung out for about an hour and a half. So anyways eventually she had to go cause she had work so I hug her goodbye but before she leaves I just decide to go for my move since I've been having a hard time seeing her anyways lol. Needless to say I got a little bit of a kiss on the lips before I cut it a little too short due to nerves lol.

And well seems like her interest level has raised, she wants to meet up for a late night movie in like two weeks when she's staying in town due to a late night work meeting. So time to take it a step further I guess lol.

Anyways that's all I have to update for now lol.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Stringer_Bell213 said:
Alright so I said I would update this when I had news. Alright so as some of you predicted she cancelled on me with a really fishy excuse which basically pissed me off lol. I was basically almost done with her but then we ended up rescheduling to meet up for coffee yesterday and I switched the coffee hangout to a walk around the park lol, which she agreed to.

Anyways so I met up with her yesterday and I did a lot of kino making sure I touched her a decent, threw a couple of snowballs at her lol, while we chatted for abit, we hung out for about an hour and a half. So anyways eventually she had to go cause she had work so I hug her goodbye but before she leaves I just decide to go for my move since I've been having a hard time seeing her anyways lol. Needless to say I got a little bit of a kiss on the lips before I cut it a little too short due to nerves lol.

And well seems like her interest level has raised, she wants to meet up for a late night movie in like two weeks when she's staying in town due to a late night work meeting. So time to take it a step further I guess lol.

Anyways that's all I have to update for now lol.
Go back and read the stuff you said that I highlighted in BOLD above. Those little things hold all the answers here.

Listen to a man with experience who has dealt with flaking attention wh0res many times... She is full of Sh!t and only stringing you along for the attention and entertainment.

Read those bold lines again:

1. Her interest level has raised

--- WRONG. She is just flattered that you like her and now she knows she can exploit you for a while since you are too "nervous" and beta male to have a "f*ck or walk" attitude. YOUR interest level has raised.. not hers.

2. Date planned two weeks away

--- She is in no rush to see you again. She isn't worried about some other girl snatching you up in this time period. She doesn't give a sh!t.

3. due to a late night work meeting

-- She can only see you when it is extremely convenient for HER and only on HER terms. She is not going out of her way to see you. She is using you to fill her empty time.. rather than making time specifically to see you.

You are in the friend zone. Its over.

If you don't believe me know.. you will find after some pain that I am right. I've lived through this exact situation.
 

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PlayHer Man said:
Go back and read the stuff you said that I highlighted in BOLD above. Those little things hold all the answers here.

Listen to a man with experience who has dealt with flaking attention wh0res many times... She is full of Sh!t and only stringing you along for the attention and entertainment.

Read those bold lines again:

1. Her interest level has raised

--- WRONG. She is just flattered that you like her and now she knows she can exploit you for a while since you are too "nervous" and beta male to have a "f*ck or walk" attitude. YOUR interest level has raised.. not hers.

2. Date planned two weeks away

--- She is in no rush to see you again. She isn't worried about some other girl snatching you up in this time period. She doesn't give a sh!t.

3. due to a late night work meeting

-- She can only see you when it is extremely convenient for HER and only on HER terms. She is not going out of her way to see you. She is using you to fill her empty time.. rather than making time specifically to see you.

You are in the friend zone. Its over.

If you don't believe me know.. you will find after some pain that I am right. I've lived through this exact situation.

+1 rep.....

This dude makes some good points. The main one that stood out to me when I read the update was #2,the next "date" being 2 weeks from now,and I KNOW it wasn't the OP who scheduled the date so far out in advance.


Number 3 also has some validity to it. I just don't believe that she's not able to find any free time to see you until 2 weeks from now,and the time she said she will have is cause of a late night meeting? Naw dude. :down:



Women ARE NEVER "TOO BUSY" for a guy they have interest in.
 

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Guess I'll reply to this lol.

Umm like I should also make it clear I have started to talk to other girls as a side note so that if things do go sour with this girl or not at all I have other options either way lol.

Okay anyways onto the main points umm well actually I've talking to her and basically it might not be two weeks, either next week or the week afterwards she's gonna get back to me and I basically countered if it's two weeks from now then let's meet next week to which she also agreed.

The main reason she can only meet on certain days is cause she's not from my city, she's lives in a city that's like a half hour away without traffic lol and she only comes to my town for work where she gets picked up and dropped off by her family, otherwise she's busy with volunteering and school and she can't drive right now. I could go to her city to meet her but I'm not a fan at all of driving that far at all at this point in time anyways.

So I think I'm liking things how they are going, but we'll see.

Again advice all appreciated, thanks!!
 

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Stringer_Bell213 said:
Guess I'll reply to this lol.

Umm like I should also make it clear I have started to talk to other girls as a side note so that if things do go sour with this girl or not at all I have other options either way lol.

Okay anyways onto the main points umm well actually I've talking to her and basically it might not be two weeks, either next week or the week afterwards she's gonna get back to me and I basically countered if it's two weeks from now then let's meet next week to which she also agreed.

The main reason she can only meet on certain days is cause she's not from my city, she's lives in a city that's like a half hour away without traffic lol and she only comes to my town for work where she gets picked up and dropped off by her family, otherwise she's busy with volunteering and school and she can't drive right now. I could go to her city to meet her but I'm not a fan at all of driving that far at all at this point in time anyways.

So I think I'm liking things how they are going, but we'll see.

Again advice all appreciated, thanks!!
She has more excuses than the Government.

There are always 1,000+ reasons why you CAN'T spend time with someone. Ask yourself this question.. would she give George Clooney or Channing Tatum the same bullsh!t excuses she gives you? Probably not.

I guess you have to learn the hard way bro. Good luck though.. hope you get it in.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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im sorry i agree with the sack her off shes not interested and shes playing you. why are wasting your time? you will learn teh hard way from this expereince
 

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Being someone that made it out of the friends zone once.....

The only way to get out once you're in is to fvck her....you have to bang her brains out.

Once a woman has sex with you, she will create an emotional attachment to you....its in their DNA...they cant help it....even if before they did see you as just a friend and nothing more.

Having said that, getting it in with a girl that has already friendzoned you is almost impossible.

I got lucky, a girl I liked(this was a LONG time ago, back in soph. year of HS) was dropped of at my house because my perants were out of town, and this chick got too drunk at a party and they did not want to bring her home for her parents to see her like that. So they left her for the night with me:rock:
I gave her some leftoever dinner and helped her sober up a little. After we ate she went from being drunk to a good buzz....I took her to my moms room and laid her down to put her to sleep(at no point did I think anything of it)...she put her arms around my back as I laid her down and first thing I did was make out. We made out and fvcked.

BUT within 2 weeks we were no longer friends. She gave me the talk saying "we have done too much stuff to stay friends"...and we never talked after that outside a occasional hello when we would see each other at school.

Moral of all that?
Frienzone is impossible to get out of. Move on
I got extremely lucky to score with a chick I was friendzoned with...a lot of stuff had to align properly..
Even after I did get it in, it complicated stuff between us and made her leave.



Sorry bud, you need to move on. And dont make the same mistake next time. In high school was the last time I was friendzoned because I learned to make it KNOWN to females that you are not there to be buddies with them by doing stuff like flirting and touching them every time I see them in real life...

Good luck
 

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Alright well I thought I'd give a final update on this matter, so we ended up meeting yesterday for the movie, I know not a great place to make a move, but she kept suggesting we sit in the back of the movie so I figured must be a good sign.

So all I did was actually just put my hand on her knee which that one guy muscleman suggested except less aggressive lol, but still took me some time to do lol, then she put her hand on mine and other hand around my arm. So that was whatever, so then I asked her if she wanted to hang out afterwards or just go home.

She said she would be down to chill, so we go back to her place and talk there for a bit then I make my move and we make out a few times at her place and then eventually she's like I don't want anything else to happen to which I said it's all good and then I ended up heading out cause it was getting late.

So I guess I'm definitely not in the friend zone, I guess the best advice was to just go for it and make a move lol.

Also it turns out one of the days she cancelled was probably legit cause she actually had a xmas gift for me that she forgot about and gave me as well lol.

So thanks everyone for the advice.
 

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Stringer_Bell213 said:
Alright well I thought I'd give a final update on this matter, so we ended up meeting yesterday for the movie, I know not a great place to make a move, but she kept suggesting we sit in the back of the movie so I figured must be a good sign.

So all I did was actually just put my hand on her knee which that one guy muscleman suggested except less aggressive lol, but still took me some time to do lol, then she put her hand on mine and other hand around my arm. So that was whatever, so then I asked her if she wanted to hang out afterwards or just go home.

She said she would be down to chill, so we go back to her place and talk there for a bit then I make my move and we make out a few times at her place and then eventually she's like I don't want anything else to happen to which I said it's all good and then I ended up heading out cause it was getting late.

So I guess I'm definitely not in the friend zone, I guess the best advice was to just go for it and make a move lol.

Also it turns out one of the days she cancelled was probably legit cause she actually had a xmas gift for me that she forgot about and gave me as well lol.

So thanks everyone for the advice.
How about that. Good job man.. I'm glad you're not in the friendzone.

Just something to keep in mind: She is clearly putting you in the "beta boyfriend" category. Which is fine if you want a relationship. But just expect that you will have to work for sex with her. She doesn't see you as "hot guy I want to bang right way" she sees you as "relationship guy who will hold my purse while I shop".

And I'm not trying to put a negative spin on your success here. Just want you to know that if you're just trying to get ass.. she isn't going to give it up fast because she sees you as relationship material.

Alpha = Instant sex + F*ck buddies

Beta = Sex after hoop jumping + Relationship to keep access to sex


You are in this position because you moved too slow.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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