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am i in the friendzone?

Sneaky_Beta

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i make out with her on the first day and we almost have sex but my friends interrupt so i take her home. the second day we do more of the same but the third day we just hang out and she calls me with some bs about how her friend wanting to hook up with me. she tells me that she told her that she doesn't like me and she only thinks of me as a friend. she wants me to hit up her friend instead or some crazy stuff like that. later on that night I talk to her about it she tells me she just wants to be friends. i say i want to be more than friends but she says its too fast. i tell her shes been acting a little crazy lately with all that bs.


i don't call her or anything for 4 days, and so she hits me up on instant messanger and asks me how i'm doing? she shares her feelings to me a little bit and tells me whats going on in her life. she laughs when i laugh. i send her smiles and she laughs at them. she even goes to tell me that while i was gone she was thinking "why is he not calling me or anything?". she calls me later and we talk about boring stuff.


what are the tell-tale signs of being in the friendzone? am i in that zone or does it seem to be more than that?
 

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ARrocket

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Nope, you're not there yet. Play your cards right, and you'll come out nicely. Sounds like you know what you're doing. For the most part.

You kinda messed up telling her that you wanted to be friends after she said she didn't want more...don't do that again. Continue doing what you're doing.
 

Jeffst1980

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How old are you two?? The girl sounds very immature.

You're getting real close to 'friendzone'...which is actually just plain rejection with no friendship. When she told you she didn't like you as more than a friend and offered to hook you up with her friend, you should've acted like you were all for it--essentially, calling her bluff. She may have been sincere about not being interested but she may also have been testing you, in which case you failed. Now you're supplicating by chatting with her online and on the phone, effectively taking a GIANT step back in your relationship. Do you realize you went from almost having SEX to just TALKING ON THE PHONE??? That's backwards.

Here's what you should do: Act progressively less interested in her. Not all at once, b/c then she'll suspect something's up. Don't call her, and cut her calls/ chat sessions short. Start acting a little bit distant. Don't talk about hooking up with her. Make her wonder. Tell us what happens.
 

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If a girl keeps wanting to hook you up with some chicks and introduce new chicks to you, does that = Friend-zoned?
 

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I think sometimes it depends on the chick they want to hook you up with. I've been in the same situtation and they try to pass you off to some nasty worthless cow of a chick, thats obviously lower on the totem pole then them. I take that as more of a test then anything. I've used the line "I haven't figured if you've met my standards, but this chick definately doesn't"
 

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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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