Am I going too far? When to stop?

[ASD :)]

Alright, for a short introduction, there is a girl I first met about two months ago at a debating contest (she was one of my opponents). As she is about a HB6,5, I was not interested in her. But, well, I still initiated a lot of "dirty" eye contact with her just for fun. I also did some C&F and made her laugh a lot. I always do that with girls I find at least a bit of my type and good-looking. I saw her again after probably a month. Again - a lot of eye contact, even more C&F and some minor kino. Soon after that she had found out my phone# somehow and started messaging me. Eventually we were soon at a party together. I did great. I gave her very little attention and even when I did, it was something ****y and/or funny. Well, I talked some nasty stuff, grabbed her ass for a few times and so on. At the same time I did that with many other girls. She saw me dancing dirty with other girls etc. Since then I know 100% she is deeply into me. Her (sometimes desperate) messages, how she apologizes about everything and tries to do everything my way.

Now here is the question. It has been about two weeks since the party now. I have been VERY cold. My replies to her messages are very short and cold or I do not reply at all. This week I once ran into her in a bus, but only said "Hi" and talked to other girls I was with. I could read on her face that she was very sad and disappointed and would have wanted to talk to me. Anyway - she sometimes sent my quite pointless messages and I replied something like "Stop wasting my time with such messages". She was sorry and said she would not anymore. This was before the bus thing, but in the bus I still felt she was attracted to me. So here is the question - she is not messaging me anymore etc. At the party (2 weeks ago) I realised that I would actually love to fvck her and she could even be my fvckbuddy. But what should I do now? I was trying to grow the attraction by giving her little attention etc, but it seems I have gone too far now. Should I ask her out? Where? My plan was to invite her to my place soon just to drink some tequila, watch movies and have sex with her. But as I unfortunately still live with my parents, I wanted to wait until I am alone at home some day (happens now and then). But I am afraid it might be too late soon. It seems I still have to date her (or something) soon - maybe next week (or tomorrow!?), so that she would not forget about me.
She has a nice body and is actually pretty cool. I do want to fvck her. Anyway I will not be sad if I fail. Just asking for your advice.

 

[Michele l'Arcangelo]

dude you're a ****in jerk. not a "dj".

get her tequilla? and take her to your house? why not just put a date-rape drug in her water and rape her or something.

you don't tell her that she's wasting your time. especially if she looks sad... or is a average "hb6,5". you should actually talk to her and see if she's actually insecure a bit about herself -- well no need anymore, you already brought her self-esteem down.

man oh man. read the articles about attraction and conversation. you might have her attracted, but as they say... "only the insecure girls go for jerks".

 

[ASD :)]

Ok, not quite the reply I was looking for. I definitely would not say I am a jerk. Neither a good DJ, though.

Firstly, I am not going to get her drunk or rape her, omg. What makes you think that? Where I live, it is casual to offer your guest a drink. Furthermore, I know for a fact that she is attracted to me. Having sex is not raping.

Also, as English is my third language, I might have given you a wrong image about the "You are wasting my time" message. The point remains the same, but I did not say it directly to her like that. It cannot be translated to English very well, but she sent me something weird and my reply was more like "What do you mean? Please, I really do not have time for such things, stop that". And I have to say, that after the bus thing I did feel bad that I did not talk to her. Yes, I guess I did bring her self-esteem down, but I do not think a b!tchy girl who think she's the God is any better.

man oh man. read the articles about attraction and conversation. you might have her attracted, but as they say... "only the insecure girls go for jerks".

Hmmmm.. I do not think I have acted that wrong.
Have I really made such a big mistake or is there anyone else that does not completely agree with MikeS?

Thanks,
ASD

 

[The Juan and only]

Sorry dude but I agree with mikeS.

It has been about two weeks since the party now. I have been VERY cold

That is taking things way too far - you only need to demostrate that you aren't needy. When I first started reading seduction material I completely overdid the c&f and similar techniques. There's no need to be a jackass towards the girl.

Re-read the bible because I don't think you completely understand what it's saying.

 

[ASD :)]

Hmm, well - I understood it myself, that I am overdoing it.
What I am asking to do is what to do next? I am pretty sure I have not blown my chance yet.

Seems I need to learn to contrast. I mean - I cannot always ONLY be cold. Sometimes I need to be nice, too. That is what I have missed with this girl, though

I guess I am messaging her soon, asking her out. Would that be wise?

 

[Michele l'Arcangelo]

lol nice, i thought you would get offended from my advice. but yeah... good luck... just ask her out once for a date or w/e

 

[oobm]

If she likes you as much as you say, you can still ask her out and hang out with her. Just ask her out and she will say yes.

 

[ASD :)]

I mentioned her that we could do something together soon. She was begging for it

 

[El MonoLoco]

She's on a a HB6,5?????

Why bother? You made your mistakes already with this one let her go. Use what you've learned on someone better.

she had found out my phone# somehow

that is just creepy and has problems written all over it

Her (sometimes desperate) messages, how she apologizes about everything and tries to do everything my way.

Yep creepy

You did the right things to the wrong chick and found a crazy one.

Most of the techniques you list are things you use to pick up a 7-10 not a 5 or 6. She probably really liked you in a crazy chick kind of way. She is like an AFC chic, you show her a little attention and she's all over it....Watch out for those. Because just like when an AFC gets any attention from something better and loses it this girl has fallen into the same trap.

My opinon....Get over it, change your #, and move on

 

[ASD :)]

Hmm.. never thought about that point of view..
But I am sure I can get rid of her when needed

Thanks for pointing that out, though!

Anyway, she is just someone I would gladly have sex with, nothing more. And I always do have several "possibilities" going.

 

[MinDFreeZ]

only problem im seeing is that she'll probably want a LTR (most do).. so be careful... I foresee attachment if you show her that kind of attention

 

[Distant Light]

Man some you guys need to know C&F is only for getting her attracted too you. She was giving you IOIs like crazy maybe over 50 IOIs from the way she was messaging you. It like saying "Talk to me so we can fuvk i can't take it no more" At the party you should have stopped with the C&F but did some Push/pull dynamic to keep her on her toes, while amping up the kino and gain some rapport and kiss.

From when she kept messaging you, you should have stopped with the C&F, and you were freezing her out for no reason. Her interest is going down and further down, if you want to try and fix this which i'd recommend to forget about it, then just starting gaining rapport.

Example of something you could probably try.

You: Hey, do you think I was pretty cold too you?
Her: blahblah
You: Thats great I was just testing you to see if you could pass my test?
Her: What test? (or) Did I pass?
You: Won't tell you but now you can take my final test?
Her: ok...
You: I'm going to ask you three questions and you answer them truhtfully.
Herk
You: What do you like better Showers or baths?
Her:...
You: What kinda sports do you like?
Her:...
You: An the final one, which do you like better... Kisses on the neck(A) or... nibbling on the ear(B)
Her...
You: (If you want to still fuvk her then do this) I'm glad you don't like this *physically do A or B* more than this *physically do A or B* (Keep in mind do the one you want to do)

While doin that could escalate to a nice little make out and she would think all that you were doing was just a test. Since she is so into your frame you may be able to make her a fuvk buddy.

 

[ASD :)]

Now that last post was a MUST for me. Thank you! I would probably have ruined it all.