"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Am I a pervert??

Drewskie

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I have been thinking recently about trying to hook up with some 18-20 year olds, just for the hell of it. Thing is, I'm almost 29. I know it's really hard to have any kind of conversation with them, and can't go out anywhere really, but if it's only for sex is it cool?? I'm pretty sure I can find some that will be willing, and it shouldn't be too difficult. Am I thinking way too perverted? Or do lots of you guys do the same and just not talk about it?? Also, how would I go about finding them other than perusing the mall like a real pedophile? Thanks guys.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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STR8UP

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OMG....you're such a dirty old man.....

Stop listening to women over age 30 (and their pu$$ified male counterparts) tell you who you should or shouldn't fukk.
 

Sinistar

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That guilt your feeling is years of shaming programmed into you when you were younger by older women (via media, movies, parents, churches, etc) who are worried you may not find them attractive one day and that just wouldn't seem fair.

You're not a pervert. You are a man who wants to experience women when their bodies are at their prime. What shame is there in that? Look at the other 29yr old guys hooking up with 20yr old women - do they look ashamed? Heck no, they're just hoping you don't figure it out too.

They're flakey at that age. But they are fun. Just don't drop the "getting serious vibe." and enjoy the experiences because you learn the most chasing them at this age when they can get attention from just about anyone. Lots of guys your age end up trapped under a cougar paw. I think it's good that you are going the other direction.
 

KontrollerX

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You should be going after 18 and 20 year olds for the rest of your life.

To give an example when you are 90 should you live that long keep on mackin to 18 and 20 year olds.

Don't listen to any shaming bullsh!t against getting with hot young women of any legal age be it 18 or 20 or whatever.

The shaming just benefits jealous idiotic AFC's who can't get over that grandpa is knockin it out with hotties while the lowly AFC has got his d!ck in his hand.

The shaming also benefits older wrinkled prune like women.

Again don't listen to a word of it and get as many 18 year olds and 20 year olds for as long as you can during your life.

Just because we get older doesn't mean we suddenly stop desiring hot young flesh. :up:
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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vorbis

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Imo, sex is fine, anything after that is a no no.

I'm 26 and if one of my friends came along to a night out with a 18 year old, most people would look at it in a negative manner.

On the flip side, when I was home at Christmas, a friend (aged 25) was talking about this 18 year he hooked up with at a club on holidays. Once offs like that are fine but an actual relationship will brand you in a negative manner.

I'm just going by how it would be viewed. Personally, its nothing to do with me but if someone my age was going out with someone who was still in high school, it would be weird to me.
 

vorbis

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just to add, in the US you're effectively limited to 20 / 21 year olds as the lowest age due to the drinking age. Your main way of hooking up with girls this young is in a bar / club. Day game isn't appropriate for this (just my opinion, I could be completely wrong)

Dating is probably more trouble than its worth with girls significantly younger than you. Ideally from what I've seen work with friends, you meet her in a club, have sex the first night and perhaps maintain a **** buddy relationship from there. I mean I'm as liberal as they come but I'd still feel a cringe factor if a friend bumped into me while I was out on a date with a girl younger than 20.
 

wjh

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Wow, some of you guys really need to get over this cringe factor bullsh1t. As long as she doesn't dress like a little girl and she's physically mature, who gives a fvck other than AFCs and Older Women? Physically, most people can't tell a hot 18 year old from a hot 21 year old anyway. If she's hot and brings value to your interaction it's no one else's business where your d1ck goes or who you're intimate with. Stop acting like losers with loser friends who would patronize you for doing what you really want to do.
 

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Women always ask me this question and I tell them as long as they are over 20 years old and mature it's fine by me. The more mature girls usually like older more mature men better.


Some of the women I have spoken to looked at me a bit surprised but thats just jealousy. It reminds them that it's normal for men to get younger women so they themselves won't be young forever. It's an advantage we as men have over women.


Men usually date younger women anyway. It's more natural. Girls mature faster then boys.
 
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