"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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collegeEJ

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Alright guys, I'll try to make this as short as possible.

I met this girl in one of my classes at my university. We start to get along really well and talk. Right off the bat, when we get dropped off of our bus where her car is parked and my next bus picks me up, she waits there with me for a while and we talk. Eventually, she begins to give me rides to my apt. even though it is a little out of her way. If no ride, she'll just wait with me and we chit chat.

However, I find out she has a boyfriend. Turns out, I had seen her with him at our school's football game the week prior and let's just say I was SURPRISED he was her boyfriend, because she looks good. Not trying to hate, just didn't see it, even though I did see them sitting together.

Anyways, back on track, she starts asking me to do stuff with her like go play indoor soccer with her, go bowling with her friends twice, go play racquet ball, but I turned down the offers for various reasons. Eventually, we start studying together whenever we have homework. She's come over to my place and I went to her's. I eventually asked her to come over one night to watch a movie, but she said she had homework and was already in her pajamas. I thought, "dang, I just got turned down", but I felt better the next morning when she startd texting me in a kind of out of the ordinary kind of way.

O.K. none of this might seem like a big deal, but this past Friday night she called me and said she wasn't gonna do anything and to call her if I got bored. I texted her and said she could come hand out if she wanted, and I ended up going to her place. We were alone, she wanted to go hang out in the hot tub for a while, and we watched a movie together, alone. Everything was chill, but I didn't want to make a move because of her bf. I leave that night and say give me a call tomorrow if she wants to do homework. We text back and forth throughout the next day when I am pretty positive she is with her bf and she says she'll call me later that evening so we can do homework. That was Saturday at 4:00 and I haven't heard from her since. It's Sunday night.

I am vey confused and this girl seems like a VERY nice girl. I need your opinions. Should I be upset she hasn't called back? Is she interested in me? How should I proceed in dealing with this situation? Thanks guys...
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Your isolated together and you didn't close...plain and simple she thinks your a chode. Don't be surprised if she never really calls back.

I swear its like chicks got to jump on a dudes dik to say that she likes him. But if you weren't going to do nothing at all due to her having a BF, then don't hangout with her.

If you want to be just friends the communicate that.
 

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Is it wrong for me not to have made a move when I was respecting the fact she had a boyfriend and wanted to feel the situation out first?
 
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Is it wrong for me not to have made a move when I was respecting the fact she had a boyfriend and wanted to feel the situation out first?
you are talking crazy!! It is her who was disrespectful to her b/f by getting in the hot tub with you!! This tells you that she has no loyalty - she is a "easy" girl"!
 

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why are you talking to her about a b/f?
why are you thinking about her having a boyfriend?
weird
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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collegeEJ

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alright, well how do you think I should proceed if I royally screwed up, like you guys are making out?

Let me guess. She already lost interest and I now have no chance?:rolleyes:
 

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id back off for a few days to see if she starts to naturally draw herself to you...damn man a hot tub and movie?
 
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Tell the man the truth. Yes you blew your chance when you had it.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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DonJuan11

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collegeEJ said:
I ended up going to her place. We were alone, she wanted to go hang out in the hot tub for a while, and we watched a movie together, alone. Everything was chill, but I didn't want to make a move because of her bf. She says she'll call me later that evening so we can do homework. That was Saturday at 4:00 and I haven't heard from her since. It's Sunday night.
You don't watch a movie alone with a girl and not make a move. What's the point of watching a movie with a girl then?

You should have just watched the movie with your guy buddy. Don't expect a call.


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I hate this, Britney's album is actually good.
 

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yeah, i think you blew it. her bf is her responsibility, not yours. if you think she's better off with you than with him, and she thinks she's better with you than with him, than he loses. it's the game, and you refused to play it.

oh, and i don't think she's easy - she's attracted. or was, at least, until you proved you had no balls.
 

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Snow Plowman said:
Your isolated together and you didn't close...plain and simple she thinks your a chode. Don't be surprised if she never really calls back.

I swear its like chicks got to jump on a dudes dik to say that she likes him. But if you weren't going to do nothing at all due to her having a BF, then don't hangout with her.

If you want to be just friends the communicate that.
you're an idiot!! not everyone are sluts and hoes yah dumb ass! dude why are you tripping out? its only been a day since she called. she's not obligated to call you, you're not her bf. she may be busy or lost her phone, who knows. what do you want out of this? i mean she has a bf! do you want to fvck her or be her man?
 

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hbxdoode said:
you're an idiot!! not everyone are sluts and hoes yah dumb ass! dude why are you tripping out? its only been a day since she called. she's not obligated to call you, you're not her bf. she may be busy or lost her phone, who knows. what do you want out of this? i mean she has a bf! do you want to fvck her or be her man?
lol, your not getting this guys post he's asking if it's OK to mess with this chick even though she has a BF.

That is up to the person (meaning him) most chicks are messing with someone anyway.

Now in this guys case he is isolated with a chick which I'm assuming he likes or else he wouldn't really post this, and basically he did nothing. If you like the chick fuking CLOSE, plain and simple. Stop making it harder than it is and anymore complicated.

If you don't want to mess with her because she clearly has a BF and if you the person don't care about that then don't put yourself in isolation with a chick.

Also, there is no thing as sluts, take that out of your vocab, lol
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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collegeEJ

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She told me today that most of her friends are guy friends, so maybe she was more interested in being friends all along.

Wierd though, because she said she called me on Saturday at around 3:00 and I didn't answer, however, she left a text at like 4:30 saying she would call me later that evening. Don't know what to make of that.
 

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Quit being a b!tch and tell her you wanna **** with her. Period.
 

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collegeEJ said:
Dude, tell me you're kidding.
Not at all. You make a whole thread about her, asks questions about her, and you scared to tell her you wanna mess with her. Yall dudes on here are just too scary to get somewhere, that ****s pathetic.
 

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haha, so you're honesly saying to be that direct man? I don't know about that.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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