Alright heres the situation

[NiceGuy7]

I was walking out of a building and went by two girls. One of them shouted out your hot. I got to talking with them and one of them wrote down their phone numbers. The non hot one wrote down the phone numbers and the hot one told me to phone her tonight. The hot ones name was written down as 30 secound tara what does that mean? And how should i approach this should i just phone the hot one and how long should i wait?

 

[NiceGuy7]

And if anyone can give me a list of questions to ask on the phone that would be helpful.

 

[JT47319]

Don't ask questions, or at least keep it minimal and HAVE A PURPOSE when questioning. Otherwise, it comes off as NEEDY behavior.

However, because she took the first step, it should be OBVIOUS that you already have the attraction phase down. Now it's both to maintain that as well as ELEVATE it so you can get a fyck close.

30 Second Tara probably means that she wanted you in the first 30 seconds, or that's how long your interaction with your was(This is an obvious IOI too since she WANTS you to remember her). Strike while the IRON IS HOT and PUMP UP HER EMOTIONAL STATE AND ATTRACTRION.

She wants you, you want her. Fyck close that ass. All you need is approximately 7 hours worth of interaction to tap it. So assume you put in one hour with the initial meet and phone. You need about 6 hours worth of material and interaction (which can be achieved in any combination of dates, phone calls, etc) to get her into your bed.

I'm going to quote Thundercat on this:

http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/
I got a pretty interesting email from a guy asking me if I thought statements were better to use than questions because they demonstrated higher value.

My reply to him was that I don't think using statements necessarilly increases your value in a girl's eyes, and questions don't decrease your value either. Rather, I think they get you different results within an interaction.

For instance, questions have a mental cost associated to them. By mental cost, I mean that in order to answer a question, someone has to take the time and effort to THINK of a response. Therefore, people have to WORK -- exhert themselves in some fashion -- to respond to you.

The truth is, most people are lazy. They don't want to have to think, especially if they're out to have a good time (like at a bar or a club, for instance). So when you ask them questions, you're really taking a lot FROM them in terms of the interaction dynamic.

I think it was Juggler who said "You only have a certain ammount of questions in the bank. Once you're overdrawn, it's over."

Too often, when guys get stuck and don't know what to say to a girl, they'll fall back on questions to keep their mouths moving. But it's lame-ass questions like "What do you do?" "Where do you live?" "What kind of car you drive?" "Are you seeing anyone?" etc, etc.

I know this because I've been guilty of it myself on more than one occasion.

So I don't think questions are the best to rely on because not only are they taking a lot from your target, but when the target answers them, you are sucked into their frame. You're in THEIR reality at that point, because you're exploring the world they live in. And in that world, they have all the power.

The opposite is true when you make statements. Statements require very little mental effort on the part of your target. In addition to that, statements help you to control the frame and suck others into your world, YOUR reality, where YOU have all the power.

This is why you often see the top guys in PUA touting routines and the like. Routines are series of statements linked together around a common them/thread all designed to get the girl to turn off her thinking cap and enter your reality.

Of course, sticking too rigidly to statements can be harmful too, because it does not engage the girl. She does not invest anything in the interaction with you if you just bowl them over with material. It might get you laid, but you'll have to deal with LMR, buyer's remorse, or something like that.

That's why we've developed things like DHVs and Interactive Value Demonstrations, because it involves the girl without mental cost on her part.

I think it's good to have a combination of statements and questions in an interaction with a woman. Kind-of that push-pull thing where you alternate between the two, only the questions you ask aren't REAL questions, you know? They're more rhetorical. Like...

"Say, you ever touched the Hollywood sign? Me and my friends were out jogging one day and..."

See how that works? You ask a question, but you bypass the mental cost by going right into a routine. Yet it's still an engaging statment because the woman you're talking to will have answered the question in her mind already by the time she's along for the ride.

I know that one of the thing's I've worked on in the past was making sure I don't ask a girl too many questions. I think that if you often find yourself in situations where things with a girl stale out or something like that, too many questions could be the reason why.

What do you think?

 

[NiceGuy7]

Thanks for the advice i went through and called her around 5:30 today. And well it did not go as excepted because when she answered the phone she sounded really out of it. Apparently i had just woken her up at 5:30pm....... Anyways she told me to phone her in an hours time. I decided against that because it might make me look desperate.

 

[Cheiradawg]

Give some more background information:

How old are you?

How old are the girls?

Where was this building? (at a college, high school,or in the general public)

 

[JT47319]

Originally posted by dementia
Id call her sunday or monday... around 10pm for a date (specific date and time - preferably somewhere close to home so u can both go back and fvck like nasty rabbits). She will be relaxed and if shes just about to goto bed, she will be thinking of u when she does.

That's way too long.

I've #closed a girl on Thursday and by the time I day2 her on Sunday, I've forgotten what the hell she looks like.

Strike while the iron is hot and if your game is STRONG (or even above average), any hint of "desperation" will be mentally transformed in her mind as "aggressiveness."

I think people take "playing hard to get" a little too far. The point is to have STRONG game in every interaction you have with her.

You can't make her miss what she's never experienced. The key to attraction is to flood her with emotions that no other guy can give her AND THEN TAKE IT AWAY FROM HER.

Fyck. Call her up, show her you the COOLEST, MOST FUN FYCKING GUY in her life AND TAKE IT AWAY.