"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Alright guys, it's time ElStud stopped fooling around and laid a girl.

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It's time for me to stop fooling around and crap and actually move on with a girl. Basically, it tires me going up to these same chicks day by day and crap doesn't go anywhere. It's about time ElStud put his skills to the test and got beyond the number. Sure approaching girls for sh*ts and giggles is okay, but now I'm ready to move it on with a broad. And really all I got to do is escalate with girls. Right now, I'm confident and I really don't care what most girls or pretty much anyone thinks. I'm also thinking of just, not going up to USELESS sets anymore. Like there's this set of b1tches at lunch who won't f*cking talk to me(They use to talk to me, but for whatever f*cking reason, they're not anymore) and I pretty much don't give a f*ck. But now I realize that the set is a waste of time, when I can go up to other b1tches who WILL indefinitely talk to me.

And to be perfectly honest, I wouldn't really f*ck with any of the girls in this school, so I'm basically choosing from what's there. Now I admit, I still got some improving to do as far as INNER game goes, but I want to move it on with a girl. And really I'm starting to not even care if a b1tch has a boyfriend, because MOST girls have boyfriends and I think it's BS. So yeah, boyfriend, no boyfriend ElStud is going to try and move it on with a girl.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Glad to hear you've ready to advance past seeing numbers as a sign of success. You will get yours in time don't worry.

I would say why bother going for the girls at your school if you say you wouldnt get them, and most of them you have approached already. Get out and meet new people, but more importantly, you need to stop approaching women with the mindset that you do. The way you talk about it you make it seem like it's a job. Just talk to them like you would anyone, be friendly, be yourself, and good things will come. If you go into a convo just looking for a$$ you may come off as desperate, and women can smell that a mile away.
 
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TheBaconator said:
Glad to hear you've ready to advance past seeing numbers as a sign of success. You will get yours in time don't worry.

I would say why bother going for the girls at your school if you say you wouldnt get them, and most of them you have approached already. Get out and meet new people, but more importantly, you need to stop approaching women with the mindset that you do. The way you talk about it you make it seem like it's a job. Just talk to them like you would anyone, be friendly, be yourself, and good things will come. If you go into a convo just looking for a$$ you may come off as desperate, and women can smell that a mile away.
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I didn't say I wouldn't "get them", I said I wouldn't be interested in f*cking most of the girls in my school, so I'm just going for what's there. And lol I already pretty much go in with that mindset, meaning I don't go in thinking about sex or getting any sort of outcome.
 
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ElStud said:
I didn't say I wouldn't "get them", I said I wouldn't be interested in f*cking most of the girls in my school, so I'm just going for what's there. And lol I already pretty much go in with that mindset, meaning I don't go in thinking about sex or getting any sort of outcome.
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You said "I wouldn't really f*ck with any of the girls in this school" I took that as not getting them. So if you wouldn't really f*ck with any of them then why bother focusing on them?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Ignore the trolls ElStud. Your determination and focus and persistance is admirable. I love it. That's what separates the winners from the losers. And you have a winner-level determination. I love that.

Just one quick question out of curiosity, since you're mostly ending up with just numbers.

Out of the last 20 women you got numbers from (give or take), how many did you call up on the phone and point-blank ask out?

I'm asking coz I went through a period where I was making escalation both more complex than it has to be, and at the same time I was distorting how often I even tried to escalate.

Thanks!
 
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TheBaconator said:
You said "I wouldn't really f*ck with any of the girls in this school" I took that as not getting them. So if you wouldn't really f*ck with any of them then why bother focusing on them?
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Because they are all I have to work with for now.
 
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I think it's time ElStud stopped referring to himself in the third person...

And if you wanna get laid in high school, don't try to get phone numbers at school. Go to a party. Or get a job in your town where a bunch of HS kids work and go from there. At least that's how I did it back in the day...but I didn't go to parties or work to get laid, it was more like the byproducts of wanting to get trashed with my friends and wanting to make some money.
 
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MooseGod said:
And if you wanna get laid in high school, don't try to get phone numbers at school. Go to a party. Or get a job in your town where a bunch of HS kids work and go from there. At least that's how I did it back in the day...but I didn't go to parties or work to get laid, it was more like the byproducts of wanting to get trashed with my friends and wanting to make some money.
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Now there is some good advice.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Now this is something I can actually respect. I know where you stand on Elstud but at least your not berating him completely and egging him on into a flame where which accomplishes nothing except gets him off track.
 
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Well done for finally accepting what everyone's been telling you for ages. Good luck with it.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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hey elstud, i'm just curious.
what do you look like?
can u post a pic of urself?
 
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