Alpha femmes

[Yon4]

I encounter this chick at my workplace who's a HB8.5 (almost a 9). I realize she's very independent and can be considered what you would call an true alpha-female in actions and mentality (always the leader even among groups of guys). She's aloof too (this is not acted out, as I heard from people she's been like this since god knows when). Definitely not the usual chick you see.

The funny thing is : she is not a tomboy but gentle and all.

1) I'm just curious: can girls like this type easily destroy the average guy? Not sure if alpha-femmes are good at playing mind-games since they really seem to be more like a man in a hot babe's body than a girl in a hot babe's body. As such, I assume their mentality is more direct and straightforward like us guys.

2) Also, do the usual PUA stuff apply to alpha-females too?

3) I read on some posts here that alpha-femmes are called "warriors" and you have to be the direct opposite to attract them? In other words, a AFC / beta guy?

 

[Blackmm]

Do you have a good job? If so, don dip your pen in company ink.

 

[SoSuave666]

To answer your questions.

1.) Yes, they can destroy the AVERAGE guy. What you must realize though, is there's no comparison between an alpha male and an "alpha femme." EVERY chick has a hammster. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.

2.) PUA would say to neg hard. I agree.

3.) Wrong. Every girl wants a leader, no matter how secure they are in themselves.

Lastly, don't mix work with pleasure. There are plenty of strong-willed women out in the world for you if that's what you're in to. Just don't back away when they ask to strap on a dildo and fvck you in the a$$. Competing with alpha chicks is basically a d!ck measuring bluff contest. They can talk and some times even act a good game, but when you pull down the pants they still got a kitty. Act like a man and these chicks will obey just like any other.

 

[pdx1138]

one of my hot friends is an Alpha-Femme plus she's from Ukraine so extra fire power there.

I've seen her dress down people before....beauty AND the beast rolled into one.

Don't dip in the company ink.

 

[Desdinova]

can girls like this type easily destroy the average guy?

Yes. My ex-wife was very much an alpha-femme. She tore down my AFC friends and turned them into her slaves.

I assume their mentality is more direct and straightforward like us guys.

A woman's personality does not determine how she's hard-wired. She's still going to thrive on her emotions.

2) Also, do the usual PUA stuff apply to alpha-females too?

Yes. Again, she's hard-wired as a female.

3) I read on some posts here that alpha-femmes are called "warriors" and you have to be the direct opposite to attract them? In other words, a AFC / beta guy?

Disagree. They're attracted to the same things that a quiet/shy girl is attracted to.

 

[Zarky]

I don't think the term "alpha" should apply to women.

There are masculine women like the OP describes. There are feminine women. But to me "alpha" and "beta" etc terms are reserved for men, because those terms relate to mating strategy and ability. Women have basically one mating strategy / ability, and that is looking as good as they can. I don't think domineering women should be given an "alpha" descriptor, because being domineering doesn't improve their mating chances. In fact, it usually decreases them.

 

[scrouds]

You all know chickens right? I'm a city boy, never even touched a chicken, bt you know there's a pecking order. And at the top you could call her the alpha chick.

Guess what happens when you introduce a rooster? He dominates all of them Makes it a point to prove he's king ****. He will also find some scratch on the ground, call a chick over and bang her. Kind of like the chicken version of dinner and a movie.

If you want to see this in action, find a BBC documentary called the private life of chickens.

They also go into omega territory. They showed a rooster that wasn't culled at the egg factory and lived most of his life in an egg house, without any normal rooster socialization. He acted very much like the hens. Eerily similar to the modern day herb.

 

[( . )( . )]

Alpha female?

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I don't think the term "alpha" should apply to women.

There are masculine women like the OP describes. There are feminine women. But to me "alpha" and "beta" etc terms are reserved for men, because those terms relate to mating strategy and ability. Women have basically one mating strategy / ability, and that is looking as good as they can. I don't think domineering women should be given an "alpha" descriptor, because being domineering doesn't improve their mating chances. In fact, it usually decreases them.

Perfect description there Zarky.

 

[Yon4]

Thanks a lot for the replies, guys! Actually, I would like to clarify something.

I'm not looking for any love or sex from this alpha femme; I want to get into friendzone. While I admire alpha femmes, their personality is too hard to keep up with in the long run. However, I've always admire them greatly because they are so rare to come by and that's what makes them exotic and epic to me.

This current one is only the 2nd one I encountered in my life of 29 yrs so far.

The problem is that pretty much every guy she knows falls into the "acquittance zone", not even friendzone. I want to be one of the handful or so that land in her friendzone.

So, would hard neg-talk and ****y-funny still work in this case?

I also stumbled on this alpha femme article here: http://attractwomenanywhere.com/blog/2009/02/24/how-archetypes-affect-your-dating-success-part-1/

Whenever I look at this alpha femme and the one before her, the way they behave and handles stuff is surprisingly even more manly than 99.9% of guys. The 1st alpha femme I met was 10 years ago in school, where the entire class of guys were all subordinated to her (even the alpha male wasn't really her match).

In fact, I can almost swear they're a manly Man's man in a hot chick body + a strong dose of feminism lol.

Thanks!
Yon