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[DonJuanit0]

THE FRIENDZONE

The reason I am starting this thread is because this is probably the most common problem especially in younger ages. I've been there, I am there, I've won, I'm about to lose now but I don't really care.

One of my success stories can be found here:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=181433

Now, my position to the matter is that men and women can not be friends! If I meet a new woman that I like, I will eventually, bring it up as a matter and make it known! For example, women here have a bad habit here, calling EVERYONE friend, it's kind of a word with no matters, so when a woman speaks to me and says, "friend bla bla bla", I'm like, "we are not friends!" and smile, she then asks me why and I explain! I am 99% sure that no one has ever told them something like this before. Most of them get stunned for a while. After having made my self clear, I will either go for her when I feel like it, or I will just fool around being C&F, but keep it to that, cause eventually if you do nothing, you will fall into the friend zone!

As I said, i am now in this strange position, that I've been so called friends with a woman, before I even find this forum! Back then I wouldn't say something like that or have the same mindset as I do now. Lately I've been acting C&F and she is responding accordingly, BUT she finds ways to make it clear that we are friends, she told me an excuse the other days by her self "I couldn't do something with you cause you have facked my best friend" (6 years ago). I won't go down without a fight that's for sure. Things are pretty awkward right now between us because she knows what I want, and although she tries to deny what she wants, she keeps coming in contact with me and plays, I am not giving any attention when she, herself, doesn't seek for it! Judge the actions, not the words! You could say that she is just an attention *****, my experience says she is not, and she could have more than 5 guys at a time worshiping her if she wanted to. Of course, I could always be wrong.

Anyway, the reason I started this thread, is that maybe it's time for us all to find a solution to this problem. I have found my ways when meeting someone new, but this problem is concerning almost anyone. I am not trying to find a solution for myself, but rather have it as a solution here, in this forum, or at least something someone can try.

Everyone who has a saying on the matter, and can help, could answer with his thoughts and maybe in the end we'll find a solution. My opinion is said and I wait your answers!

The question is, and please don't say it can't be done, cause it can.

How does someone escape from the friendzone?

Assume that looks don't matter for this question, cause obviously we can not know everyone's looks. Let's say both the woman and the man are 7/10.

 

[j.619]

Age-old question. In my experience, you just need to be sexual. Platonic friends don't generally act sexual towards each other. Not blatant groping or being a pervert, but C&F, with some light kino usually gives off the idea of what your intentions are.

Laymen terms... don't do anything a girl's girlfriend would do. No relationship advice, no listening to complaints about life/work/school, no hanging out without sexually-charged physical contact, no being emotional tampon. Avoid those things and you won't become the g@y best friend. Obviously this only works if you're interested in the woman.

 

[DonJuanit0]

Age-old question. In my experience, you just need to be sexual. Platonic friends don't generally act sexual towards each other. Not blatant groping or being a pervert, but C&F, with some light kino usually gives off the idea of what your intentions are.

Laymen terms... don't do anything a girl's girlfriend would do. No relationship advice, no listening to complaints about life/work/school, no hanging out without sexually-charged physical contact, no being emotional tampon. Avoid those things and you won't become the g@y best friend. Obviously this only works if you're interested in the woman.

This is about not getting into the friend zone, I'm talking about, breaking out of it! This could be helpful to what you say as well though, by da Pook!

The woman enters the house followed by a guy. The guy is all smiles thinking that great acts of intimacy are about to occur. But, alas, the woman launches into a rant about men.

“My ex-boyfriend was such a jerk,” she began. “Why is it that men treat me so roughly?”

The guy then transformed into Mr. Sensitive. “There, there,” he purrs. “They do not know how great you are! You are beautiful, lovely, enchanting, dazzling in every way, and they are idiots when they cannot see it.

”“You are so nice! What a friend you are!” she squeals. “Let me tell you more of my problems with men…”

And so the guy, who was excited because great acts of intimacy would occur, leaves severely disappointed with a hollow feeling echoing throughout him. “I thought that through friendship, love would eventually spring. How wrong I was! A friend she sees, a friend you be.”

When he entered the house, the guy noticed a sign above the door. At the time, he was too excited to even CONSIDER reading it. Now that he was leaving, he read it. “So true!” he cried. For the sign above the door read:

Friendship- Abandon all hope ye who enter!

“But why, Pook!? Why is friendship hopeless!? I fall in love with my female friends. Do they not do the same?”

Pook then called up a woman. She appeared in a blaze of fire (probably from the place which all women are from…).

“Oh woman, pray tell! Why do you not go after your male friends?”

The woman looked amazed that anyone could ask her that. “Because they are just friends.”

“But do they not fall in love with you?”

“Yes. My male friends constantly fall in love with me.”

“And, speak truly madam, what do you and your male friends do?”

“Oh! Well, we hang out. We talk a lot.”

“Talk? About what?”

“Everything. Anything.”

“And they fall in love with you.”

“Yes.”

“Ahh…” said the Pook. “Now we have the answer. Away with you!” And the woman vanished in a fireball.

“What answer?”

“Why, it is a difference between the sexes. Young man, what do you do with your friends?”

He looked thoughtful. “We play basketball. We ride around town. We play video games. We…”

“But do you and your guy friends ever sit around and talk about your feelings and things going on in your life?”

The young man looked angry. “HELL NO!”

“There is your answer. Men do not get together and just talk. We do things. When we are with our women friends, we talk much more. Since we reserve our talking, sharing emotions and experiences, to our romantic interest, we get confused with our female friends. We begin to get interested in them because of this.”

“But what about women, Pook?”

Pook pointed to the telephone lines above them. Lightning surged and glowed along the lines.

“The phone lines! They are on fire!”

“Indeed. When women get together, what do they do?”

The young man looked at the fiery lines. “They talk!”

“About what?”

He looked thoughtful as sparks rained on him. “Everything!”

“Women usually aren’t used to getting together and doing pure action. So when they do so with their guy friends, they get a bit confused as well.”

“I see…”

“So avoid the friendship route. When you see a woman you are interested in, go for her romantically. For a friend she sees, a friend you shall always be.”