"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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All these rules "carved into stone" aren't always true...

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For example, I was an emotional tampon for a girl that I met recently (by choice really, I wasn't seeking her at that time) and I was a total nice guy to her... Turns out now she is quite interested in me. This might not mean that she would go out with me, but this also means that she didn't block me off of potential b/f list, which does mean that these so-called "rules" aren't always true
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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So what you're saying is that you're no nearer now than you were when you started communicating with her?

Realise that you've spent these hours listening to this chick tell you her problems and you've got nothing in return... when a chick is single, every guy is on the potential BF list... your behavior didn't get you on that list, and it isn't a bonus that you didn't get crossed off the list... essentially you wasted hours you could've been using more productively with friends, by yourself, or with other chicks maintaining your position on this girls list...

Tsk, tsk, tsk..
 
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Ashley Chuckles said:
So what you're saying is that you're no nearer now than you were when you started communicating with her?

Realise that you've spent these hours listening to this chick tell you her problems and you've got nothing in return... when a chick is single, every guy is on the potential BF list... your behavior didn't get you on that list, and it isn't a bonus that you didn't get crossed off the list... essentially you wasted hours you could've been using more productively with friends, by yourself, or with other chicks maintaining your position on this girls list...

Tsk, tsk, tsk..
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Naaa the way I see it is first, I didn't waste any time with her. See, I don't mind helping girls out when I'm not really interested in them. Also, I'd say I'm not just in potential b/f zone, but also she seems pretty interested in me... She was kinoing me a lot today, and I was kinoing back and it was going smoothly. Maybe its all false interest, I don't know yet, but I'll find out, got nothing to lose. If it turns out to be false interest, whatever it's not a big loss it's not like I put 100% of my attention for her or anything...
 
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I don't mind helping girls out when I'm not really interested in them.
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Huh? So you're on the potential BF list of a girl who you're not really interested in?

I dunno... I'm just having trouble making sense of it... if it was me I'd rather be helping my friends out or having a wicked time my friends and hitting up girls that I am interested in rather than listening to the troubles of some girl I'm not really interested in...
 
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Ashley Chuckles said:
Huh? So you're on the potential BF list of a girl who you're not really interested in?

I dunno... I'm just having trouble making sense of it... if it was me I'd rather be helping my friends out or having a wicked time my friends and hitting up girls that I am interested in rather than listening to the troubles of some girl I'm not really interested in...
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Bah I left some information out, I'm just lazy...

Thing is, we were at a party, but it was the end of it, pretty much everyone left. Then, her, a mutual friend of ours and me gathered somewhere and we started talking, and we were cheering her up because she got kinda rejected by this guy (however, if she turns out to be rly interested in me, it wouldn't be a rebound because it took her one day to get over him)

Anyways man maybe you're right, maybe not, I won't know for now, but I'll find out. Howver, now I'm tired as hell so I'm off to bed

Peace
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Ya... only time will tell... the rules are more concerned with dudes who spend weeks and months trying to get at a girl by being her emotional tampon not a dude who spends ten minutes changing a girls outlook...

I wouldn't quite categorise a girl as over a dude in a day though... she may seem that way or even say it, but it's most likely a front... inside she'll be unstable because she really isn't over the dude as quickly as she says she is...
 
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You know what they say: Rules are made to be broken.

I've always thought they were more like guidelines anyway.
 
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A diffferent perspective...

Every woman has her own personal and unique likes and dislikes. Rules should be referred to more as guidelines. There are no "rules" per se when it comes to women. Each to her own. While one woman might be crazily turned on by the behavior / personality of a guy, the woman next to her might be disgusted at the same guy.

Not every woman is for every guy, and visa versa... But that’s why we meet and go through a whole lot of women until we get to a stage where you know what you are looking for in a woman, and you know what you are NOT looking for in a woman... and then when the woman that fits your criteria comes along, you know that this is now a potential LTR girlfriend and you might wanna spend a little more time on her.. ;)

At the end of the day, every person is their own unique and different person and that’s just the reality of life.


Laterz...
 
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Naaa the way I see it is first, I didn't waste any time with her. See, I don't mind helping girls out when I'm not really interested in them. Also, I'd say I'm not just in potential b/f zone, but also she seems pretty interested in me... She was kinoing me a lot today, and I was kinoing back and it was going smoothly. Maybe its all false interest, I don't know yet, but I'll find out, got nothing to lose. If it turns out to be false interest, whatever it's not a big loss it's not like I put 100% of my attention for her or anything...
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Then someone who is a true DJ comes along and screws her brains out while you are still being an emotional tampon?

Think about it.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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lucky 4 u u r not yet in the friendship zone, if u were, u r screwed.
Girls has 3 catatogies:
guys they want to screw with immediately(have sex asap)
guys they may want to screw with(they hold off the sex)
guys they will never have sex with no matter what u do(friend zone)
if u r in zone one, u will have sex and u r in the potential long term zone, that means u r a DJ and u got in her bed without buying her
zone two: you bought her, u r an afc and u showered her with money and gifts, but not so much so that u slip into friend zone,
zone three: unlucky afc, too much showering, but she has never even considered taking her pants off 4 u-move on.
 
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