Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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All or nothing or build rapport?

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I went out to breakfast with my family yesterday and noticed a HB waitress. I was looking at my menu and I looked up and she was looking at me and didn't look away, but she wasn't really smiling or anything just looking. Either way, I plan to make a move.

What I'm wondering is, since it's a small place and there's a good chance I can get her as my waitress and have a convo with her that way, if I should become a "regular" and build rapport or just go for the gold and ask her out next time I see her and take the chance she doesn't flake?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Not much I could do. She wasn't my waitress and was quite busy. I just noticed the IOI. Difference between IOI and AI.
 

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Build rapport. All or nothing is hit or miss.
 
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I honestly don't think I'm motivated enough. I approached a hostess a couple weeks ago, no second thoughts, no hesitation, but that's because I felt I had something to lose. From far away, she looked like the kind of woman I'd only dream about and I couldn't pass that up so I went up to her. Turned out she was 17, just had a very mature body for her age and the secretary glasses made her look older than she was, but I at least did it.

It's like unless I think there's a big prize on the table I don't try. This current waitress (yes I tend to have a thing for women that work at restaurants hehe) isn't any better than the last girl I dated. She's pretty, better than most but I don't feel like "Wow I have to talk to her."

In a way it's good that I have a little experience now and know what it's like to be around a hot girl for an extended period of time after the last girl I dated, but I seem TOO relaxed. Any ways of curing this?

And no, this isn't rationalization for approach anxiety. I had approach anxiety and approached that hostess anyway no problem. It's almost like I'm the kid in school who wants the perfect attendance record or something.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Well I talked to her. I was talking to my waitress about how I put mustard on my fries, so the girl is standing around and says "There's this country song out now that I like where the guy says he puts mustard on his fries." So I escalate with fluff talk, ask her if she goes to the local college and talk to her for a minute or two. I was about to ask for her number when customers walked in and she had to wait on them.

I didn't even care that I didn't get her number. She was a girl (19-21ish), not a woman. I feel like at 25 that I should be going for women in their mid 20s or older, unless they're one of those really hot women that's 21-22 and looks older for her age.

I was college aged once and that time is over. I know a lot of guys will disagree, but I want a woman. I know women are harder to seduce, but I'd rather date a woman than emotionally f*ck up and mislead young college girls that I'm not even that into.
 
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LittleRiverBand said:
Well I talked to her. I was talking to my waitress about how I put mustard on my fries, so the girl is standing around and says "There's this country song out now that I like where the guy says he puts mustard on his fries." So I escalate with fluff talk, ask her if she goes to the local college and talk to her for a minute or two. I was about to ask for her number when a customers walked in and she had to wait on them.

I didn't even care that I didn't get her number. She was a girl (19-21ish), not a woman. I feel like at 25 that I should be going for women in their mid 20s or older, unless they're one of those really hot women that's 21-22 and looks older for her age.

I was college aged once and that time is over. I know a lot of guys will disagree, but I want a woman. I know women are harder to seduce, but I'd rather date a woman than emotionally f*ck up and mislead young college girls that I'm not even that into.
I hope this isn't a case of sour grapes.....

In my experience it's better to go all or nothing with girls you don't see on a regular basis. Rapport building is better suited for girls you'll run into frequently (e.g. girls in your same social circle, work, class etc.)

It'd be especially tough to build a real rapport with a waitress. She can't really relax when she's working and she's interacting with you in the context of a professional relationship not a personal one.

If you did want to go out with this girl, it probably would have been best to say "Hey, are you single?" and then ask her out on a date in a creative/interesting way.
 
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No sour grapes. Honestly not sure about her IL, but my point is I could give a sh*t about dating a girl 5 years younger than me. I'd have sex with her in a heartbeat, but I refuse to be one of those losers that dates a girl for a month before getting in her pants. If I want to date a girl, I'll date her, but not just for sex.
 
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