"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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All Of You Dudes Are Hunks In Your Own Eyes 7+ It Seems

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PRMoon said:
Uhhh, did you read the rest of my post?

i assure u, im not callin u an idiot, your one of the good ones, and no i didnt read the rest of ur post because i had to reply to that part first
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Fuglydude said:
haha thanx man... ya, in all honesty, I don't think I'm that attractive at all, but I do love to joke about it...I NEED to do all the positive self talk stuff to get my confidence boosted up before i get on stage cuz if you're confident dancing, you'll SUCK and it won't be fun.

I've actually danced at some "alternative" (bisexual/homosexual) clubs before just doing solos...sometimes there's really hot girls there! Overall, its easier to dance at those places cuz i don't really care what the dudes think of me...but its pretty creepy cuz you kinda know what they're thinking! Plus the money is really good too.

im sorry what? Fuglydude, a guy that looks like you shouldnt be asking the things you are asking on here....why do both your pics look like model pics like that?
 

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John_Galt said:
The looks don't matter thing is something that's been sold to them. Anyone that is selling PUA always markets that so the uglies will pay for their workshops, books, crap, etc.

Take the mini-me guy. If he wasn't in that movie and was just a regular joe. No amount of PUA material would ever have him rolling in the pu$$y.
I feel very sorry for most of these dudes, to them, Senor Fingers, is a God, Doc Love, Swinggcat, Mystery, could I ever forget, Jason King, well they can't even use their real names, though they are milking their fortunes from the insecure, like hungry Wolves.
As the Indian Guru of the 1980's, Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh, once said in a lecture "If you tell the people what they want to hear they will treat you like a God", the same has to be said for all of these, Tyler Durden, wannabe's. :mad:
 

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All the answers I'm not sure what you're getting at here...my pics like I said in my initial post are from a professionally done shoot. I had a week to prepare for it, and I use them for posters/promotional stuff for our shows.

I'll have to get my girl to take some regular shots of me soon.

I ask stuff/discuss stuff on these forums because there are many aspects of game that I have yet to learn. I also feel I have some things to contribute...
 

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I'll say this while it's at the top, so it doesn't get bumped: useless thread.

Mods, where art thou?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Bonhomme said:
I'll say this while it's at the top, so it doesn't get bumped: useless thread.

Mods, where art thou?
If your such an expert write your own post and reveal your secrets, if you can't don't flame others. :mad:
 

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Deus ex Pianoforte said:
No, looks just don't matter. Stop creating looks threads.
Oh for fuvks sakes. LOOK. If a girl finds you physically unattractive, you're fuvked. Sorry DD, Styles, and all you other "gurus" out there who brainwash people into believing physical attraction is insignificant for a woman and there is some grand "secret" (just pay $39.99 and it is yours!). :rolleyes:

If a girl finds you physically unattractive, you have about a one in ONE THOUSAND chance of turning her around. Yeah you could look at that ONE time it worked out, or you could fall back down to reality and look at the 999 that ended up in failure.

Look at a girl's previous boyfriends. You will find consistant similarities. Height, body type/build, race, skin tone, etc. I have done this with EVERY girl that I've known well and you know what? In EVERY case I was able to find consistant features in all the men they previously dated. Pure coincidence? Hardly.

I am NOT saying game is insignificant. Not at all! But game is not a totally independent variable and the outcome of your game has some relation to looks. For example: say a girl is looking for a 7+ in HER books. A 6.0 guy with the right game has a decent shot. A 5.0 is ****ed. A 7.5 who is a big pvssy and not confident will drop himself down to a 6 or 6.5 and he's eliminated. An 8.0-8.5 who is not confident and a big pvssy will still have a good shot. A 9+ can be a total douche and she'll be head over heels for him (I've seen this situation personally).

So how much looks matter to a particular girl is relatively constant. How much game matters is relative to where YOU fit on HER scale. In some cases, game will make or break it for you. But in some cases, you don't have a fighting chance and are better off being realistic instead of delusion thinking there is some grand master secret game to getting *any* girl. Simply put, there isn't.
 
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SmokeX said:
Fuglydude - You are not bad looking I would give you a 8/10. Mind you I am a bisexual dude. So it doesn't matter what I think really.
We have a homo in the house...


Fuglydude said:
I've actually danced at some "alternative" (bisexual/homosexual) clubs before just doing solos....
..And someone who dances for homos - we just made a Sosuave match! :rolleyes:
 

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Last Man Standing said:
We have a homo in the house...


..And someone who dances for homos - we just made a Sosuave match! :rolleyes:

Ya dancing for homos is easy cash... 15 minutes on stage nets you anywhere from 180-200 dollars cash in your pocket. I can't make that kinda cash doin anything else. I say if you got the looks, bod, attitude... use it...

Plus there's hot girls at some alternative bars...
 

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PigAdlemPimp said:
It seems strange that you are on a PUA site, yet are also way above average in your looks, are you all really 7 and 8's, or are you daydreaming.
who told u that the guys here r all 7 and above?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Fuglydude said:
Ya dancing for homos is easy cash... 15 minutes on stage nets you anywhere from 180-200 dollars cash in your pocket. I can't make that kinda cash doin anything else. I say if you got the looks, bod, attitude... use it...

Plus there's hot girls at some alternative bars...
You made $200 - how much worth of dignity did you lose for that sum? :rolleyes: Dignity is PRICELESS!
 

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No one here really says they are that good looking or brag about it as far as I know. I sometimes worry because I've been told (once) that I was ugly. I do worry about not being that good looking. Then I think that some really cute girls stare at me (I can't give good eye contact). Sometimes they even do double takes. Though they maybe doing it to make sure I look good but I figure I'm decent enough to get stares.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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TillTheEndOfTime said:
Oh for fuvks sakes. LOOK. If a girl finds you physically unattractive, you're fuvked. Sorry DD, Styles, and all you other "gurus" out there who brainwash people into believing physical attraction is insignificant for a woman and there is some grand "secret" (just pay $39.99 and it is yours!). :rolleyes:

If a girl finds you physically unattractive, you have about a one in ONE THOUSAND chance of turning her around. Yeah you could look at that ONE time it worked out, or you could fall back down to reality and look at the 999 that ended up in failure.

Look at a girl's previous boyfriends. You will find consistant similarities. Height, body type/build, race, skin tone, etc. I have done this with EVERY girl that I've known well and you know what? In EVERY case I was able to find consistant features in all the men they previously dated. Pure coincidence? Hardly.

I am NOT saying game is insignificant. Not at all! But game is not a totally independent variable and the outcome of your game has some relation to looks. For example: say a girl is looking for a 7+ in HER books. A 6.0 guy with the right game has a decent shot. A 5.0 is ****ed. A 7.5 who is a big pvssy and not confident will drop himself down to a 6 or 6.5 and he's eliminated. An 8.0-8.5 who is not confident and a big pvssy will still have a good shot. A 9+ can be a total douche and she'll be head over heels for him (I've seen this situation personally).

So how much looks matter to a particular girl is relatively constant. How much game matters is relative to where YOU fit on HER scale. In some cases, game will make or break it for you. But in some cases, you don't have a fighting chance and are better off being realistic instead of delusion thinking there is some grand master secret game to getting *any* girl. Simply put, there isn't.
This is the smartest reply on this thread guys. Read and reread it again.

Im a decent looking dude, but I have never had attractive women check me out AT ALL. It just not a normal occurance to me. I have been to the club and maybe approached 10-15 girls that night and maybe if I am lucky I will get 1 number. Granted my game still needs work but even then its obvious my looks are neither helping me nor hurting me. Despite the credit i gave myself for putting my ego aside to approach, almost all of the girls i talked to I could tell were not feeling me. I just felt like with most of them I was beating a dead horse, trying to create an attraction that just didnt exist.

I even asked a girl at work.
"Are most girls lying when they say they would rather take a guy with a great personality over great looks?"

She told me most girls just say that because they don't want to seem shallow.

Now dont take this as "well im screwed because girls only like hunks" Get out in the field and approach. Improving your game can easily up your overall attractiveness a couple of notches. Improving your looks can be done by working out, staying clean, dressing cool, etc.
 

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w/e man

I've been beaten out by worse-looking men than me so I know firsthand that looks are not paramount.
 

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Everybody gets trapped in their own reality. It doesn't matter how good looking you are, you still have problems and can still be an AFC. I've learned a few things on this site about managing people, especially from the more muture posters who are or have been married.

The thread starter obviously has no realization that understanding human psychology and how to deal with others is a never-ending learning process. Being good looking has nothing to do with it.
 
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