"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Alcohol, is that the secret?

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Ok i've started this thread because i'm just abit freaked that i gave up alcohol for a few reasons..but since doing so going out clubbing and bars i don't seem to get the same attention.

Now my bro who NEVER get's any attention from women is getting it all, and me who use to get every thing is getting looks but nothing else.

Just seem's that alcohol somehow makes you radiate sex appeal or confidence...not to the point your a drunken loser...but to the point your 100% at ease and able to have fun.

Ok i'm no idiot and realize you don't NEED alcohol to have a great time when ya clubbing and everything..just wanna hear some don jauns who never drink when they sarge clubbing/bars and what helps them when everyone else is getting off their head.

Thanks

Demonic
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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A few drinks to loosen up is ok but thats all. Drink makes you do silly things and look AFC. I know I've learned that the hard way.
 

War Against Betaism

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A few shots of hard liquor should do, just make sure you don't get knocked up. Happened to my friend a couple weeks ago and he's blaming it on alcohol.
 

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I've got nothing against people who drink alcohol but in my personal opinion its poison for your body and absolutely unnecessary to take in for any reason.

Don't be weak and use alcohol to loosen up instead study some relaxation techniques you may find here on the forum or in books.

Alcohol is just another buffer to avoid true change within one's self and become a full and true DJ if a person is using it to cope with and succeed at social situations.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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idk....some girl who i was chilling with...once we got drunk we were all over eachother.... i dont see that happening if we were sober....well not as far as we did in front of everyone.
 

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Ok i've started this thread because i'm just abit freaked that i gave up alcohol for a few reasons..but since doing so going out clubbing and bars i don't seem to get the same attention.

Now my bro who NEVER get's any attention from women is getting it all, and me who use to get every thing is getting looks but nothing else.
Just seem's that alcohol somehow makes you radiate sex appeal or confidence...not to the point your a drunken loser...but to the point your 100% at ease and able to have fun.
NO it makes you look at every girl much more prttier(yes..even the fat chick..haha)two or three drinks let your brain forget about all the social worries(ouch...I can't feel my face)...and lets your softer side come out.
Ok i'm no idiot and realize you don't NEED alcohol to have a great time when ya clubbing and everything..
I never need alcohol....(I actually hate the taste wit all my gutz)But in under controlled circumstances(no wallet,no watch,no gold chain)I drink beer(my friend buys..his older...thank god)...I actually dance to the music and see the bright lights as time to let looose and let goooo and have fun....
 

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No. It can be a social lubricant but the point should be developing your personality so you can talk to people at ease when you are not out clubbing. Be in that mindset everywhere you go, not just to the club on weekends. I haven't had more than one beer a week for the last two months.
 

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thats because you're under 21. The bar/club scene is where alot of people hang out in college and after, so the temptation to go out drinking is there. I used to drink alot but I don't find it necessary to talk to women.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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alcohol is a crutch in younger college types of bars and clubs. Lately, I've grown older, more mature and I find it easier for me to game if I'm completely sober. Sure, if I'm at Mardi Gras or in Las Vegas at a bumpin' club, Alcohol will bring girls over to you and you'll approach everyone. However, I've started hanging out more at upscale bars and lounges where the quality of women is much higher and alcohol really doesn't do anything to improve your chances/social status. I've been working out more and eating healthier and that has been my reason for not drinking. I actually feel more confident when I'm the only sober person in a room full of drunks...I'm more in control and cold and calculating.

Although I still loved to get hammered but not 4 or 5 times a week like in college (and the 3-4 years after).
 

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It's not the secret but honestly...what's the point of going to a loud obnoxious club sober. Boring if you ask me. I'd rather just stay in and watch a good movie.
 

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Interesting thread as I'm almost finished my 2nd month of 4 on accutane to clear up my acne, therefore I haven't drank at all. I'm only 17, but alcohol has always been the ONLY part of my game. Over these past few months of being sober, I've seen the social dynamics of parties much differently.

However over the past 2 months, I also haven't gotten a thing, passed a quick makeout sesh. The problem sure isn't that I can't pull girls. I use lots of kino and humor and get the girls gravitating. In fact just a few nights ago I had my oneitis practically dragging me away from the party with her, telling me how sexy I am etc.

So what's the problem?

I'm sober. I can't bring myself to hook up with drunken girls when I'm sober. This is a huge problem because at all the high school parties, EVERY girl is drunk. Last Friday with my oneitis, we started to leave together but I just couldn't do it cause the girl was wasted.

I'm really interested to see what people think of gaming drunk girls while sober, keeping in mind I'm a high school guy where the incredible social proof I've built means everything.
 

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theborn_athlete said:
Interesting thread as I'm almost finished my 2nd month of 4 on accutane to clear up my acne, therefore I haven't drank at all. I'm only 17, but alcohol has always been the ONLY part of my game. Over these past few months of being sober, I've seen the social dynamics of parties much differently.

However over the past 2 months, I also haven't gotten a thing, passed a quick makeout sesh. The problem sure isn't that I can't pull girls. I use lots of kino and humor and get the girls gravitating. In fact just a few nights ago I had my oneitis practically dragging me away from the party with her, telling me how sexy I am etc.

So what's the problem?

I'm sober. I can't bring myself to hook up with drunken girls when I'm sober. This is a huge problem because at all the high school parties, EVERY girl is drunk. Last Friday with my oneitis, we started to leave together but I just couldn't do it cause the girl was wasted.

I'm really interested to see what people think of gaming drunk girls while sober, keeping in mind I'm a high school guy where the incredible social proof I've built means everything.

That's pretty much my plan, actually.

"Don't drink, get girls drunk."

Hope it works out when I get the chance.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Well i went out friday and saturday night not drinking and it was'nt easy but not IMPOSSIBLE to be chilled and have a great time!.

It's just not easy and needs alittle practice.
 

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having a few drinks to loosen up is okay, but a lot of AFCs use it as a means to get girls interested and just hook up with them; we've all done it. I can give examples of times where I didnt even say anything remarkable to a girl or even try and get with her initially, but alcohol can help that. Now thats all well and good for the AFC, but for guys like us trying to buiild real attraction, alcohol should just be a social additive, not a tool.
 
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