Alchohol vs. Non-alchoholic ways to meet people

[Jukeboxhero]

Just so you know I'm relatively new to actually drinking achohol and the whole lifestyle that goes with it. Obviously there some major differences in meeting people at places where alchohol is involved vs places with no alchohol immediately available. Now, since I'm relatively new to this I'm drawing my own conclusions and opinions which I believe are pretty accurate, but I may be mistaken

First I want to list some of the disadvantages of meeting people in bars, clubs or parties where alchohol, noise and lack of inhibitions is usually quite prevelant.

1. Noise, LOUD Noise: This is one of my pet peeves about places that are almost based solely on being a place to socialize, meet girls, hookup or just have fun in general. Why does the music have to be so DAMN LOUD! In my opinion this is the worst because it someone inhibits communication unless you are able to shout over it or your to the point where you can use kino and whisper in somebody's ear. However, you can't use those voice control methods in which you can make your voice more appealing to women (don't remember what it's called).

2. Alchohol, While Alchohol has it's advantages in lowering your inhibitions and helping you feel more relaxed, it can also work against you. Usually by making you lose control of the situation and not being fully aware as to what's going on or even worse, turning you into someone your not normally like. Examples would be angry, annoying or just stupid in general.

3. Competetion Obviously since the bar is a place to hook up there will be lots of other guys there.

Advantages
1. When you first start out meeting women or your generally shy in large groups at public places I think alchohol and help you relax and have a good time. PLus it gives you something to actually do aside from pickup women. If you still get a lot approach or social anxiety then you might not approach much in a loud noisy type enviroment unless you've had a drink or two.
2. You have something in common with other people there and another reason to be there aside from picking up chicks.
3. Usually girls are more relaxed and in a fun or flirty mood. Of course this is also a disadvantage if you get accustomed to thinking the same women are like that sober or all women are like that. You obviously need to more sober approaches then drunk ones.

P.s. Edited to list advantages (IMO) please let me know what you think.

 

[everywomanshero]

wash out

Everyplace has it's advantages. I prefer the club scene because it still feels more natural to me. Mall is preferable to a busy grocery store.

Clubs = Hard to hear + High attitude. You need to be willing to laugh off any rude women, and believe me, there will be many. You can lesson the noise problem by moving further away from the music. Hanging out by the bar is an easy way to strike up convo, anyway. Of course, you don't want to look like a stiff standing there all nighteither. Work fast or dance at least part of the time. if you cannot dance at all stick to pubs or work the room fast to get convo going so you look like you're having fun and popular, true or not doesn't matter.

 

[sparky1981]

What you say about alcohol is all true but just one stiff drink can often loosen you up and make you relax around the chick. Man if i didn't do it I would be as nervous as hell on some first dates. So yeah if you look after yourself you can smooth the road

 

[[o_0]]

i meet as many girls without % as with %.but it all depends on how do you act after %. i mainly have a good flow to chat with girls, but its sure that you cant get too intelligent woman after %. but.. sometimes you dont need intelligence, you only need a girl to be hot and **** her in few days or even same night. so minly. you wont wind wife after %, but good sex.. yeah

 

[Jukeboxhero]

Originally posted by The_Shezzler
Never drink when sarging! Ever!

Not only does it affect your game, but the costs you incur over the years are insurmountable! - Drink water - i find this very cheap (hehe) and it also gives a great conversation topic to work with - "Allergic to Alcohol", "Pro Sports Player", often i find girls appraoching me to ask me why im not drinking -excellent!

Sarge On...

That's cool Shezzler,

I used to have the exact same viewpoint and I still do agree to an extent. I used to hate alchohol, couldn't stand the taste and I was afraid of the aftereffects.
However, I finally decided to relax a little and try some. It does help you to relax and sorta "fit in" and be part of that kind of atmosphere. As far as cost goes, I always limit my purchase to 1 or 2 drinks. Sometimes, by being resistant to drinking I get friends and girls to try to coax me to drink my more by buying it for me, so in the long run I usually only spend around $5 or so at a bar..max about $10 and I've really never been so drunk that it affected my game in a negative way, I always stay in control and I'm aware of what's going on--plus I actually remember every situation and almost every girl's name who I interacted when drinking. SO I drink enough to get relaxed and maybe a bit goofy but nothing too ridiculous. .

On the other hand, I do like the water and "pro sports player" idea. I didn't know that pro sports player's couldn't drink alchohol though, can you give me and example of a conversation you might have with a girl involving that?

P.s. Ultimately, I just use alchohol to be more relaxed and get accostumed to approaching women. I think it has helped and soon I hope to be very successful without ANY help from alchohol. Last night I didn't drink any because I was broke and I did pretty decent talking to people!

 

[Jukeboxhero]

Any other thoughts?