"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Ahhh!! I NEED your guys help.

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I'm pretty sure you have ALL been through this, i have too, but not nearly as much to remember what i need to do or have experience of... Anyways...


Im in a long term relationship with my girl friend, who i have been going out for a year and 3 months. Shes a highschool senior graduating this year. Im out of school, thats why i dont post in the highschool forumn, im 18 years old.

Soo.. The day i got kicked out (4 days ago from my apartment, i now live with my mom), i kinda argued and fought with my gf because she didnt seem to care that me and my dad got in a fist fight, and she was just falling alseep on the phone. IT pissed me off cus it made me feel as if she wasnt "there" for me. Anyways. the next day, I called her twice from an unknown phone number, but she never called my cell phone or anything all day. Next day, I call her, she seems a bit weird... We talk.. And i tell her the bad news that i might move to california. And i kept on going on and on, how i didnt wnat ot because i love her (my entire family is in california, ill be the only one left in vegas, im currently staying with my mom).. Anyways.. I told her there are ways to stay in vegas. She said to just go to california. That pissed me off, cus it made me feel like she didnt love me or didnt care either way or didnt care about keeping this relationship together. ( i went on about how much i loved her and if she was serious about us i would do anything to stay in vegas, basically i was looking for her to fight for me to stay here show me she cared and wanted me to, but she didnt even talk anything about her love for me or her feelings and just told that i should go to cali and we'd still be together and i felt like she didnt love me at all) She then makes me total AFC and makes me really sad, and she told me we both have growing up to do, and she told me she doesnt see how i can be a husband cus she some how came to a conclusion that i will be poor all my life, and she wants a man who can support her and has money. And it made me see her as a total b1tch like shes a gold digger.. anyways, i didnt call her that but i implied it.


OKAY time to get to the point... I been calling my gf lately, trying to talk to her, but she just sits there quiet on the phone, like shes atotal stranger, she doesnt even act like she loves me anymore.. and i want to work things out.. she says if i go to california we'd still be together but i doubt it. i was looking for some sort of convncment from her to have me stay in vegas, cus if shes serious about our relationship i would put up with it. But seeing how she seems to not evne give a crap.. i guess ill have to see what i do. But when i talk to my gf she doesnt even act like my gf anymre.. i talk to her.. and it seems so slow.. the conversation... so dead.. like.. nothing is happening.. she never makes an effort to keep the convo rolling... and i dont know whats up?

Do i just forget about her and move on, and let her come back to me when shes stops being a little btch, or do i make an effort to work things out and get her back again.....?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I read over my previous post, and i still feel like i didnt get my question across... My bad..


Well, the last few times i talked to her on the phone, bascailly we have nothing to talk about, well at least SHE doesnt, I can easily talk to any other girl because they enjoy talking to me. But my gf, all of the sudden, she just sits there and listens.... Like she has her mind some where else... then i just get fed up with it about a few minets later where i stop talking, and i see if she is going to say something, and its dead silent for about 30 seconds.. and i just wonder wtf is going on? And i ask her so r u going to talk? And she says she has nothing to say.... She never talks about her feelings with me anymore, or if she loves me or misses me , none of that. And then she just says she'll call me tomorrow and basically .. everything is becoming a disaster it seems.. shes acting totally weird, indifferent, like she doesnt love me anymore? I have seen her talk to other guys before, and the way she is talking to me is like im talking to a pole..... she has this tone of voice like ... shes bored as hell.... What do i need to do?


How do i fix this?
 

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listen to yourself man,

if you feel she doesnt love you, it probably means she doesnt.. perception is reality... get a grip...


i'd suggest you two NEED some time appart... distance can make a heart grow fonder... but i do seriously think you have lost her for now.. you cant pressure somebody to talk about their feelings no matter how hard you try, and how do you fix this? go to california... get with other girls... you can still love her, but get with other girls.. it isnt cheating if there's no love...

one more thing, you are right about her not being with you anymore after you move... especially if she's just "yeah, go to cali" no i'll miss you or anything...

now i dont know your full situation but thats what i get from the sounds of it.. move on, and hope that one day it will work out. right now it wont.. make a man of yourself, get a good job, an education, better yourself, and you'll find somebody more worthy of your time and affection... or at least she will come running back and you'll have everything you wanted from her...
 

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You're Right... She loves me, I know she does, but shes always always been ocnfused about us and her future... She doesnt want to make a mistake and be with me and have her life be ruined because of the influence her parents have had on her.. she thinks im going to be a loser.. everything was perfect last week though.. things change so fast its suprising....before we had so many plans about getting married having a family, and now, she all of the sudden wants to be more mature about it and actually not settle with her 2nd boy friend, and yada yda... just what advice everyone gives to a young teen she is now accepting it.. and completely just threw away the fact that we loved eachother...
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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she'll respect you if you move, and make a life for yourself..

she's obviously sending you signals that she isnt ready to settle down WITH YOU and that she's not partied out yet and wants to sleep around...

things do change fast, in a blink of an eye, thats life, be happy that its in your hands.. and you can change everything...


time to give her some space and see how she likes it.. enjoy the rewards after... :) you running after her will only push her further away..
 
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DonDan said:
You're Right... She loves me, I know she does, but shes always always been ocnfused about us and her future...
Ok DonDan, sorry to hear about your fist fight with your dad - that is very bad!! Seems like you have some personal problems at a very young age and your girl sees this and now has doubts about you. You got kicked out of your apartment? This is not a good impression to make on a woman who you want to marry! Can you see your instability? She does!

Are you working? Or making plans for your future?

She has a love of a 17 year old - so don't put too much weight on her "I love yous". If she didn't encourage you to stay in vegas then she pretty much wants to break it off with you and start fresh and open herself up to a new relationship! She is not confused! When a girl says she is confused this means she is seeing another dude or she doesn't want to be with you!!

She doesn't love you enough to build a future with you -- DON'T FORCE IT!!!
Just accept it and do not delude yourself that she wants you forever!!

Let her go and get a better footing in Cali where most of your family lives!! Things aren't going for you in vegas!!
 

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I noticed this:

DonDan Hmmm.. Karma Sutra is getting a tad bit on my nerves
Let me get this straight, you're 18 and sweating your balls off for a fvcking high schooler? I doubt you've even gotten your fingers wet you cvnt. Gee, I'm the loser right? You and NAS2mylou (if, and this is a HUUUUUGE if, you're not the same fvcking idiot) should step away from World of Warcraft for a few minutes and get some real life experience. I know it's going to be tough to stop jacking your d!cks to whatever Star Trek episode you're currently enthralled in and nitpicking about but please for fvcksakes try talking to a real girl aside from one over your cool new headset you got for your EMACHINES.

"You gonna stand there and bleed or you gonna do something?"

" I said throw down boy!"

B!tches :kick:
 
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Karma, you posted on the wrong thread!
 

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KarmaSutra said:
Let me get this straight, you're 18 and sweating your balls off for a fvcking high schooler? I doubt you've even gotten your fingers wet you cvnt. Gee, I'm the loser right? You and NAS2mylou (if, and this is a HUUUUUGE if, you're not the same fvcking idiot) should step away from World of Warcraft for a few minutes and get some real life experience. I know it's going to be tough to stop jacking your d!cks to whatever Star Trek episode you're currently enthralled in and nitpicking about but please for fvcksakes try talking to a real girl aside from one over your cool new headset you got for your EMACHINES.

"You gonna stand there and bleed or you gonna do something?"

" I said throw down boy!"

B!tches :kick:
your a real azzhole.

but its true, don is a fag. hes fuking fag, hes diasaniwater.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthr...=112295&page=2

"i dont care if i get banned anymore.... i came here to seek help and if i get banned for it then so be it. Im dasaniwater aka Wheyprotein aka dondan."

so what are you goign to pull out your azz this time? let me guess your account got hacked too!? just like skip?.. b1tch please

someone ban this troll already
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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God, its so hilarious when a 33 year old man flames me and wants to fight me over the internet? just goes to show you how pathetic people can be....
 

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Dude fvck him he is a fat piece of shvt. did u see his picture. Did u see what he looks like. this guy doesn't have a shot of getting a girl. don't pay attention to his fat azz. He is a fat fvck trolll. He is a 1.


karma sutra u look like hell.
 

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Hey dude I am sorry to say this but u are going to need to let this go. THere is nothing u could say or do to get this girl on your good graces.

THe only thing u could do is go bang another girl, and she may feel jealous and come back to you.

But I still don't think this is going to work.

Hey dude get along better with your family. U can choose your woman and your friends but u can't choose family. My advice is to lay off it, get along with your family and go bang some girls.

peace and best of luck to you.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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ROFL, Seriously? O0o0o, I would love to see this guys picture. He certainly talks like hes the **** yet hes 33 years old trying to fight with me, haha i knew something was up. This guy must be talking smack from his own insecurities, i knew it!!!

Anyways Nasman i think you are right.... But there is a university here in Las Vegas that I really want to attend, and its not really near LA... So I think i might move in with a friend or something i dunno yet.. But yeh its a shame how things turn out. Oh well, I have this girl helping me out (not that shes intending it) and getting my feelings off my gf cus im startin to crush on this other girl....

****Goes off looking for his picture to have a good laugh***
 

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ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!! !!!! ! ! :LOLOLO!L!OL!!! I SAW IT IN HIS PROFILE.... LMAO


OMG... this guy ,,, THIS GUY... with the tremendous FCKIN ego talkin BIG SH1t on the forumns lookin like that?! OMG. R u kidding me? wow.... This guy swears hes a pimp. Hes just a fat patatoe with a shiny head like a bowling ball LOL.. why is ur shirt off anyways? u think your actually Buff? Please, no definition in ur chest whatsoever, i only see a bush :\.. i aint the one to usually diss but wow... mofo u start sht with me u better check urself in the mirror... damn.. haha.. ok carry on!! :)

I remember I was talking to Skip2mylou, I showed him my picture, he seriously was amazed at the fact i was even on this forumn. HE told me i could get any women i wanted and i said seirously? He told me most of the guys here are ugly and thats why they cant get girls .. and its true... But yeh, I would love to see what anyone elses pic on here who talks crap to me. As skip put it, i am MR Suave... haha... he even said that i could bang chicks he couldnt... BUT YEH ... The one thing that i dont have is GAME and i may be AFC at times.... But dont fckin say sht about me watchin star trek when u are a bald cutip head that wears glasses!!! MOFO.
 

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Drop her dude... She is nothing but a negative on your life...
If you have to... Seriously like change your number... your screen name... delete your myspace for month... change your e-mail etc... Move do whatever...
 
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Karma Sutra - 33 year old trying to be mean to an 18 year old online?.....part of the reason i think some of sosuave members just use this site as an outlet to let out their frustrations in life, and somehow they get a breath of fresh air trying to look tough and insulting online, posting things 100% NOT related to what this site is actually about. Utterly pathetic.

Dondan - dissapear from her life and watch just how much she missed you and starts acting loving again. Make her scared she will lose you, and she will come back crying and sucking your d1ck
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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